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silverspurs Posts: 15 |
posted 04-15-2006 06:05 PM
  
[26-1009] I wish I had found this wonderful site sooner. Hope someone can help me identify my olive fork/spoon combination depicted in the photos. There are no markings whatsoever. The server measures 10-1/2" and is some sort of antique silver (coin or sterling) with gilding on the pierced bowl and on the fork tines. There is a decorative monogrammed plate in the center of the twisted handle. I'm trying to determine the maker, the type of silver and the approximate age of this server. Based on family history, I think it may be circa 19th century. Thank you for whatever help you can provide. IP: Logged |
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IJP Posts: 326 |
posted 04-15-2006 06:50 PM
I'm afraid I can't help with your maker or exact time of manufacture, but I had a similar item to share, from the mid-19th century. This unidentified (according to Soeffing) medallion pattern object is only marked COIN. I think that unmarked American coin silver is not uncommon. I would suggest early to mid-19th century for your piece. Is it possible to get a close-up of the middle section? If identification is possible at all, the key probably lies there. IP: Logged |
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 04-15-2006 07:29 PM
Hi Silverspurs! Welcome to the forum. Your piece is lovely. Perhaps you can give us some family history that might help in determining where it came from, might have been made, and who the possible makers may be etc. Do you have any other similar pieces. The double fork spoon combo is not that uncommon so we might be able to help. Jersey IP: Logged |
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 04-15-2006 07:36 PM
P.S. It looks very similar to pieces made by Gorham. Can you give us a better close-up of the middle part? Did you look on the tines or bowl for markings. Thank you. Jersey IP: Logged |
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silverspurs Posts: 15 |
posted 04-17-2006 07:32 PM
Thank you, IJP and Jersey. I took another photo showing the middle part of the spoon. If you can find any indication of maker, congratulations. There is nothing on the back. Asking elder relatives to see if anyone knows the era when the utensil might have been given as a wedding gift (I'm assuming that is what it was for). All the ancestors lived in New Jersey. IP: Logged |
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 05-04-2006 04:26 PM
Hello Silverspurs! Still cannot help you with the maker of your piece, however I did come across some interesting information regarding the origin it. It seems during the time of having a separate piece for every kind of food etc. there was a dilemma about whether to use a spoon or fork for olives........Voila! They made one piece with a dual function. Apparently it started in the 19th century. Jersey IP: Logged |
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sewer-rats Posts: 19 |
posted 05-04-2006 07:20 PM
I would think it was marked some where, is it? Kind of neat too. Does it need polishing by chance? I can help with that. IP: Logged |
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hello Posts: 200 |
posted 05-04-2006 08:02 PM
sewer rats, I have all kinds of silver to be polished. let me know the next time u are in Canada IP: Logged |
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silverspurs Posts: 15 |
posted 05-04-2006 09:43 PM
Thanks again, Jersey, for your continued efforts. Sewer-rats, you wouldn't want to deprive me of the pleasure of polishing my own silver, would you? That's half the fun. IP: Logged |
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sewer-rats Posts: 19 |
posted 05-04-2006 10:30 PM
Oh my word!! Another person who loves to clean silver!! I thought I was the only weird one here. LOL IP: Logged |
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 05-04-2006 10:46 PM
Silverspurs, You are most kindly welcome! MY DH loves to polish as well, especially when he gets upset...he takes it out on the silver...and that's a good thing for me & the silver! Can you take a shot of the opposite side of the middle piece please, for a possible mark, even though I suspect it may be coin & not be marked? Jersey IP: Logged |
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silverspurs Posts: 15 |
posted 05-05-2006 04:55 PM
Hi, Jersey. I've sent the olive fork/spoon to one of my relatives, so can't take a photo of the back. Trust me -- there's nothing on the back anyway. I too believe it is made of coin silver. I guess this will remain one of life's mysteries. IP: Logged |
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