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lisa Posts: 63 |
posted 08-10-2003 08:38 AM
  
[01-1186] I am curious about this bowl and wonder if it is Gorham instead of Wallace and if the "F" mark indicates an 1873 manufacture date? quote: IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 08-14-2003 02:51 PM
The F does not stand for 1873. For one, the style is wrong. Stylistically, it is a nice c. 1900 bowl. Also, Gorham used "A" to precede model numbers on a lot of silver (many bowls, dishes, etc.) around the turn of the century. This is an example of that. IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 08-14-2003 02:52 PM
If this is your bowl you might want to search for a little symbol that would be a date code. I would think they'd date stamp something like this bowl. IP: Logged |
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Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 08-14-2003 03:32 PM
Another reason why a date of 1873 is impossible is that apparently the Bailey Banks & Biddle name was only established in 1878 when partners George W. Banks and Samuel Biddle joined Eli Wescot Bailey. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 08-14-2003 04:24 PM
Actually, the partner was Joseph Trowbridge Bailey II, who joined his father's firm of Bailey & Company as an apprentice in 1851, becoming a partner in 1856. Eli Westcott Bailey was his uncle and had joined Bailey & Company in 1848, closing his own jewelry and importing business in New York City. He had retired from business and died by the time Bailey, Banks, and Biddle was formed in 1878. IP: Logged |
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Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 08-14-2003 07:26 PM
Thanks, WEV. My source for "Eli Wescott Bailey" originated from the Zale Corp, which apparently acquired Bailey, Banks, and Biddle in 1962. You'd think they would know their own history, but there goes!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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lisa Posts: 63 |
posted 08-15-2003 04:13 AM
Thanks for all the information. I actually don't have the bowl in my possession to check for a symbol, but will look when I have the chance. I mostly wanted someone to verify back that this was a Gorham piece and not Wallace. So what does the "F" mark mean? I did think the 1873 date was too early for the style. IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 08-17-2003 06:40 PM
I don't know what the "F" mark means. I don't even know whether it was Gorham or B B & B who put it on. It could be a weight mark, some kind of price code, or something else entirely. IP: Logged |
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