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Polly

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iconnumber posted 05-05-2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A pair of nice sheaf-of-wheat salt spoons, marked Whitney. Which Whitney? It looks like there are lots of them.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 05-05-2012 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A closer look at the sheaf of wheat:

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wev
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iconnumber posted 05-05-2012 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asa or his brother Ebenezer. Given the later date of the piece, most likely the latter, who likely inherited (or bought) his former master's punches.

[This message has been edited by wev (edited 05-05-2012).]

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 05-05-2012 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aha! Thank you, Wev. I didn't even look at Asa because his dates seemed too early for the spoons, but yes, that's the punch, well worn by the time it got used on these spoons. I bet you're right that it was Asa's punch used later by Ebenezer.

When do you think the spoons are from? 1830s?

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 05-06-2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Basket of Flowers and Sheaf of Wheat patterns were started by American silversmiths in the mid 1820s and may have been produced until sometime in the 1840s. I do not recall seeing any research published on this question.

The William Gale invention for stamping patterns in flatware made the swage or die used for the Basket of Flowers and Sheaf of Wheat patterns a more expensive method of production. Gale could have continued making these patterns by his new method, but I am not aware of any flatware of this type that he produced. I suspect that with the ease of making patterned flatware the designers of that time period all wanted to use their own creations and not use something from the past.

I think the Basket of Flowers pattern did appear again in sterling in the 1870s as a kind of reproduction of the earlier pattern but I have forgotten who the manufacturer was.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 05-06-2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should add that the first time I saw the Basket of Flowers and Sheaf of Wheat patterns was at a Heart of Country show in the late 1990s. A dealer at this show had a whole table filled with these two patterns and seeing this display really was the start of my interest in coin silver.

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The JCK Flatware Index shows Dominick & Haff as introducing Old Basket of Flowers (fiddle) in 1895; and Tuttle as introducing Basket-of-Flowers (antique) in 1940, Turner suggests a more likely c.1905. Turner shows two Durgin Sheaf of Wheat patterns: Tip Sheaf, c.1888 and Antique Sheaf[/i], c.1895.; JCK Index also shows them, calling the fiddle, Sheaf of Wheat (formerly Tip Sheaf), 1887.

~Cheryl

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iconnumber posted 05-06-2012 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Cheryl, The pattern I was thinking of was by Dominick and Haff and it came out later than I thought.

I remember seeing a complete set of the Dominick version in Atlanta several months after I saw the coin silver ones in Nashville and wondering how they got a complete set for something so rare.

My dealer friend who had the silver in Nashville also set up in Atlanta at that time and told me that they were reproductions. I will never know if the first dealer understood the difference.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 05-06-2012 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should we start reference threads for Basket of Flowers and Sheaf of Wheat--the old, swaged versions--so people with unmarked ones can try to identify the makers (or at least the swages)?

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