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wev
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iconnumber posted 10-23-2012 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A stamp and coin dealer who I have occasionally bought from told me this morning that he had taken 97 pounds of sterling and coin flatware to the melter over the weekend. Nobody was interested in paying even the scrap value and he was tired of moving the boxes. If bytes were worth anything, maybe I'd be tempted to do the same. . .

Speaking of which: 7,050

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-24-2012 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know your project and to a lesser degree the SSF have great value. Hopefully, some day, we figure out how continue with our historical altruistic humanitarianism and cover our costs.

7,050 entries in your SILVERSMITHS & RELATED CRAFTSMEN WOW! biggrin

I am so sorry to hear about the continuing melt. I wish there was a charity or foundation that would take/buy the old silver at scrap and give to schools/school children for the amazing historical lessons that can be had.

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iconnumber posted 10-24-2012 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only 97 pounds?

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wev
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iconnumber posted 10-24-2012 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect it wasn't the first load to go.

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 10-26-2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If those are troy pounds and the average item scrapped was 12 oz then that's 97 items gone, or twice that if half the weight of average item.

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iconnumber posted 10-26-2012 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect he used the old bathroom scale that sits behind the counter. Assuming he is accurate and talking standard pounds, that's around 1415 troy ounces. Taking an average weight of a tablespoon at 2 oz, there were around 700 pieces.

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iconnumber posted 10-26-2012 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A slight non sequitur.....

I heard today about someone who decided in his 80s to retire from a lifetime of sailboat racing. He took all of his accumulated trophies (I trust they were nondescript bowls and cups) and melted them down into one big brick of silver that he inscribed with the dates of his sailing career and put on his fireplace mantle!

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iconnumber posted 10-29-2012 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seaduck is that what you call an anchor trophy? (sorry)...

As to melt I can't remember if I have run this by before but if it is inevitable that these spoons are going to be melted would it be of any benefit to cut out the marks for posterity? I am curious as to what this crowd thinks?

My thinking is that at least the mark would be saved for posterity and the cost would be at a fraction of the spoon. I have done this with a few spoons that were broken beyond fixing but have yet to do it with whole ones.

I have a relationship with 2 scrapers and they would let me do it (I have a shear and they would make me pay the scrap price).

At least the physical mark would be saved...

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Scott Martin
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Better to save the whole spoon. Shape/design are often instrumental in the identification process.

Losing history to the melt is very sad.

I suppose with front, back and detail photos then the snipping the marks, and a little bit more for future x-ray testing, is better than losing everything.

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