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wev
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iconnumber posted 01-18-2013 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I came across this today in a box of odds and ends. I don't think I have ever seen this handle form on an 18th century American spoon. The maker, confirmed with Winterthur, is the somewhat mysterious Nathaniel Bartlet(t) who worked in Concord MA c 1760-1800. It measures just shy of 5 3/8".


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iconnumber posted 01-18-2013 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strange and charming. I wonder why that style didn't catch on.

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iconnumber posted 01-18-2013 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is curious -- like just one step before a coffin handle.

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iconnumber posted 01-19-2013 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What surprises me is that shapes were so uniform at that period. Why not more of these simple variations? Why did everyone want the same fiddle handle as the lady down the lane?

Did it have to do with spoonmaking technology--was it expensive to have more molds or dies or whatever made?

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iconnumber posted 01-19-2013 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly, for these spoons there are no molds or dies, each is hand forged, a dozen would be worked together and each stage finished on all 12 before moving on to the next stage so they all had the same thing done at the same time.

Fashion dictated the form and that was more iron bound than any mold! It is why I like seeing a spoon like this Bartlet one, an odd little ducking, out side the norm.

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iconnumber posted 01-20-2013 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right, of course, Agleopar. I guess I was thinking of swages and drops.

But I still don't understand why fashion was so restrictive at that period when there are so many attractive shapes to make a spoon handle.

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2013 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A similar handle is shown in the Belden glossary, but with no indication of the maker, etc. I finally tracked it down in the new museum database. The mark is given to Nicholas Burdock, working c 1800 in Philadelphia, contrary to the Bartlet attribution sent to me, so I guess the question must remain open



An identical spoon, also attributed to Burdock, is in the Metropolitan Museum of Art collection.

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2013 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the MET/Avery attribution:

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