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Brent Posts: 1507 Registered: May 99	posted 10-25-2015 01:37 PM Hello all, Here is a coin teaspoon, one of a set of 6 bearing a script PT mark attributed to Peter Targee of New York by Belden. Unfortunately, we do not know much about him other than that he married in 1805 and died in 1814. The style of this spoon, though, is distinctly mid 18th C, and unless he made the set in an archaic style, the implication is that he had either been working quite some time before 1805, or the PT mark is not his. Belden seemed a bit hesitant with the attribution, and this set seem to vast some doubt upon it. Brent IP: Logged
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 Registered: Apr 99	posted 10-25-2015 03:18 PM I have never been comfortable with the attribution either and have it marked as 'tentative; Winterthur.' They have two spoon in the collection with the mark. One, nearly a match to yours, is clearly mid-century and the other c 1790-1800. I have long suspected there are a number of silversmiths working in 18th century NYC that have never been identified. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 10-25-2015 05:43 PM I know you are familiar with the I & P T mark which is attributed to John & Peter Targee. Below is an example found in the Brooklyn Museum collection. Any ideas about the other marks? Entree Dish, One of Pair Artist: John & Peter Targee (Maker) Medium: Silver Dates: ca.1810 Dimensions: 1 5/8 x 12 1/4 x 9 1/4 in. (4.1 x 31.1 x 23.5 cm) Markings: Dish is of rounded rectangular form with applied cast gadrooned rim. Plain, fairly deep bowl with engraved coat of arms in center; tree over beaver (?) within shield surmounted by crown. (Arms of Schermerhorn family). CONDITION - Good. Normal wear for dishes of this type that have been used; a few scratches in bowl. Signature: no signature Inscriptions: no inscriptions Collection: Decorative Arts Museum Location: Brooklyn Museum, BMA, 5H27, 7F Accession Number: 67.74b IP: Logged
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 Registered: Apr 99	posted 10-25-2015 05:55 PM Those are almost always found with their mark. The same marks were used earlier by John Vernon, and it has been suggested that the Targee's continued their use after assuming his business. As to meaning, no plausible theory has been proposed for the odd P; the leopard's head is a typical pseudo. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 10-25-2015 07:28 PM Thanks. IP: Logged
asheland Posts: 935 Registered: Nov 2003	posted 10-26-2015 12:57 PM I can't offer much help with the maker, but I do like the spoon! IP: Logged

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