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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 07-22-2017 02:24 PM
  
The July 2017 issue of Maine Antique Digest has a paragraph and picture of a spoon that Winterthur tested in 1980 for alloy content. It had the right content to be of the period for the Myer Myers mark impressed on it. Subsequently, the same mark was found on silver known to be modern; hence the authentic spoon was not really made by Myer Myers. As a result they now believe that this early spoon was simply unmarked and the same forger marked it. They did not include pictures of the mark. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 07-22-2017 03:08 PM
Meyers forgeries are nothing new and marking old spoons is/was a common practice. Without a picture of the mark in question, such a notice is of little help to anyone. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 07-22-2017 06:53 PM
Winterthur currently has an exhibition on fakes and maybe this spoon is included. I am surprised that their web site does not include more information about which fakes are included in the exhibit. When we lived in St. Louis there was one Flea market that often had a dealer with Indian trade silver claimed to be authentic. He had a whole tablefull of "authentic" trade silver in a time period when finding one piece would be highly unusual. The number of fakes killed this market so I hope the same thing does not occur in early American silver. It does seem that it would be a pretty simply project to publish what it was about the mark that made Winterthur sure it was a fake. A good movie on forgeries is "How to Steal a Million " with Audrey Hepburn. [This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 07-22-2017).] IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 07-22-2017 09:08 PM
Winterthur's online database does list (with pictures) a number of the known fakes in the collection -- Revere, Winslow, Viliant, etc, but not the Meyers. There was a small consortium of dealers and fakers based, if I remember correctly, out of Philadelphia in the day who made up all sorts of goods to fill the wish lists of collectors like Dupont. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 08-23-2017 10:57 PM
The October 2017 issue of Early American Life has an interesting article entitled Treasures on Trial that discusses the current exhibit at Winterthur Museum on this subject. This exhibit is about fakes, forgeries and frauds. One of the items in the exhibit is a spice tower the has a genuine mark of Myer Myers on its base, but has a top portion that they believe was added in such a way as to deceive who the actual maker was. Other items include paintings, ceramics, chests and musical instruments. I have always been fascinated with objects of this kind and the ingenuity and talent that was needed to create these objects. This exhibit continues until January 7, 2018. Below is a picture of the supposed Myer Myers piece. IP: Logged |
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