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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 10-04-2018 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recently acquired at auction some spoons marked H. Leeler and can not find any info on the maker. 5.875" long. Anyone ever come across this maker or could the mark say something else? Retailer maybe? Tks.

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 10-05-2018 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My immediate reaction is that they may be European.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 10-05-2018 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My immediate impression was German - found reliable reference identifying that mark as belonging to Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Seeler (born 1839) of Rehna...

~Cheryl

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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 10-05-2018 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow - thank you very much. can I ask what reference resource you used to obtain this information?

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 10-05-2018 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's from Theo's 'silberpunze' site, and he references Scheffler - here are the translated notes:
"MZ: [ H Seeler ] = Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Seeler (see [SCHEF M + ND] No.8), born on 11.1.1839 son of GS Jacob Gottfired Jürgen Seeler (No.4). He married Luise Maria Koch (* 1844 in Gartow) on 4 September 1866. Lit: Wolfgang Scheffler, Goldsmith of Central and Northeastern Germany, p. 305, No.8"

Theo is a member here, so he might look in...

~Cheryl

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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 10-05-2018 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you. I have a question if these are German. There are no other markings on these except for the shown mark. What is the probable silver content of these? Would it be 80% ? More? Less? Tks.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 10-05-2018 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eh, would suspect around 12 loth (.750), but could be lower or could be higher - if you need to know, XRF testing would be a way to tell...

~Cheryl

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iconnumber posted 10-05-2018 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you. i was under the impression that German spoons would have other marks on them (loth or location) - but guess not.

appreciate the responses.

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