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ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 05-26-2019 01:34 AM This cup is probably most notable for its weight. At 211 grams it is 60 or 70 grams more than most of the other cups I have. Ball, Black and Co I think by 1863 (the date on the cup) was making most of their silver to the sterling standard. This one is also a little unusual as it has a gold wash interior. From the cups I have seen this was more common in England than in the U.S. This cup has an English looking crest so perhaps the donor was familiar with custom in Great Britain and requested a gold wash. It was given to Marion Cozzens on Sept 16th.1863. IP: Logged
bascall Posts: 1629 Registered: Nov 99	posted 05-26-2019 05:55 PM I believe this could be a gift from Abraham Martling Cozzens of Manhattan to his granddaughter on the occasion of her birth. Her maternal grandfather passed away in about 1853. Abraham was a merchant and dealt in oil. IP: Logged
ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 05-26-2019 06:32 PM Thank you Bascall, I really like these presentation cups to grandchildren. The Grandfather brought a very nice cup for his granddaughter and I hope she enjoyed it when she got older. IP: Logged
asheland Posts: 935 Registered: Nov 2003	posted 05-28-2019 10:30 AM That's really nice. IP: Logged

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