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Polly

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iconnumber posted 09-08-2019 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found a sweet little spoon today that appears to be American c. 1760s-70s, Hanoverian pattern, with a shell back, marked MB. The mark looks a lot like the marks WEV gives on his invaluable site for both Miles Beach and Martin Bull, whose marks look extremely similar to me.

WEV, or anyone else: Which one (if either) do you think made my little spoon, and when?



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Polly

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iconnumber posted 09-08-2019 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More photos of the mark on my spoon, plus a photo of the spoon with a pencil and a penny for scale:




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wev
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iconnumber posted 09-09-2019 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am inclined to Martin Bull, though there has been much back and forth between the two men's marks. This is a spoon of mine I attribute to him.

how does the shell swage compare to yours? None of my Beach pieces have more than an incised drop.

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Polly

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Thanks, wev! Yes, the shell on mine is very similar to the one yours:



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Polly

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If you look at the little lobe on the lower left, it seems to have the same irregularities on both spoons, which makes me think it was made with the same die.

Wev, when would you date mine to? I want to say 1760s--would you agree?

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iconnumber posted 09-09-2019 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that would be reasonable; I would put mine a bit later, but not by much.

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