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Bob Schulhof

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iconnumber posted 06-15-1999 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Schulhof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Special Features
Unger Brothers was the proponent of the art nouveau. Indeed every piece they made is a collectors item today. While I have been partial to the beautiful wispy ladies of their "He Loves Me" , "Envangeline", "The Wave" and "Dawn" patterns that did find their way to tableware, these patterns were never made into a full dinner setting of flatware. In fact there are only 5 different Unger patterns available in complete place settings. Douvain is certainly the most "Nouveau" and seems to consist of ghouls and goblins. I would love to know the inspiration behind the pattern. It is certainly one of the most "collectible" patterns of the period.

Unger made art nouveau flatware from 1900 to 1910, and Douvain appeared in 1904. That makes only about 6 years worth of production available. This is not Chantilly. The company went into airplane parts during WWI and the dies were never sold, as nouveau became old hat.

Pieces Available
According to the 1904 Unger Catalogue just about anything one can imagine is available. Shown Below are:

Item .......................Length........Our Cost
5 O'Clock Spoon.........5"..............$40.00
Flat Butter Spreader.....5 7/8"..........$75.00 (had to have it!)
Teaspoon..................5 7/8".........$30.00
Oval Soup .................7"............. $65.00
Dinner Knife...............9 1/2".........$125.00 (whatever it takes)
Dinner Fork................7 3/8"........$59.00 (stole that)
Luncheon Fork............6 3/4"..........$90.00 (averaged out)
Salad Fork..................6 1/8"........$135.00 (no comment)

As can bee seen from the above pricing sometimes you can find someone who doesn't know what they have, but when you see what you need buy it!

Photo of place setting:

Key Pieces
The usual. Dinner Knife, salad fork, flat butter.


Mysteries about this pattern are where to find it, and I would love to know how it was dreamed up. . Certainly no place setting collection is complete without Unger Douvain.


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Ulysses Dietz

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iconnumber posted 06-18-1999 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Presumably Douvain has the same French origin for its name as many of Unger's other patterns--but even as a French major I cannot find a French word form which this might be derived. As a note of interest, The Newark Museum owns Grace Unger's wedding service in the Douvain pattern from 1908, in its original fitted oak chest. The place setting is odd--a few more pieces than you show here, and a bunch of interesting serving pieces. Grace was the daughter of Eugene Unger, and married another Unger executive, G. LaRue Masters. The Museum is still in touch with the Unger descendants.

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Ulysses Dietz

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iconnumber posted 06-18-1999 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Grace Unger's service we also have another small spoon (a five o'clock and a six o'clock coffee?), another larger spoon, oyster forks, and luncheon (or game course) knives. Do these all show up in the 1904 catalogue?

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Bob Schulhof

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iconnumber posted 06-22-1999 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Schulhof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Unger Catalogue lists the following:

1. Place (not serving) Spoons- Tea, 5'Oclock Tea, and coffee. I think mine is the 5 o'clock. There was also the 7" dessert spoon

2. Oyster forks

3. Table knives and dessert knives.


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iconnumber posted 09-02-1999 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for edensterling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a list of all pieces in Douvaine which are illustrated in the 1904 catalogue.

table knife
dessert knife
table fork
dessert fork
tea spoon
five o'clock tea spoon
coffee spoon
salt spoon
table spoon
soup spoon
dessert spoon
carving set, 3 pieces
sardine fork
salad fork
cold meat fork
olive spoon
olive fork
oyster fork
food pusher
sugar tongs
butter spreader
orange spoon
cheese scoop
mustard spoon
butter pick
butter knife
bouillon spoon
sugar sifter
cream ladle
gravy ladle
cream ladle #2
oyster cocktail fork
sardine fork #2
berry spoon
bon bon spoon
bon bon spoon #2
preserve spoon
berry spoon #2
salad spoon
sugar spoon
sugar spoon #2
salad fork
fish knife
ice spoon
fish fork
oyster ladle
cucumber server
pie knife

items with a #2 mean that that Unger illustrated 2 different types of that item.

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iconnumber posted 02-16-2004 05:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Douvaine is a small Resort City in France at the Swiss Border. They actively advertise it as a place to visit. I've asked my friend Michelle, who has a PhD in Ancient French, if there is a chateau with the Dolphin as a water spout, often seen in that configuration, and the face of the North Wind, both figures are plainly a part of the beautiful Douvaine pattern. Perhaps if there is a building with these "faces", the origins/inspirations of the pattern's deigns might be finally explained. Also, it's good to know that Douvaine sterling was made in so many pieces. I've heard it was not a full place line, which is obviously not true.

Robert R. Perry, RN, MS

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