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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 04-04-2005 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Recently I got a very expensively made woman's belt, which belongs to the national costume of the Georgian women. Normally this belts are made by local silversmiths.

This belt however was made by the famous courtjeweler Ignatij Sazikov, who owned shops in Moscow and St. Petersburg.


It is silver(875/1000), gilded and decorated with niello in the typical Georgian style.

On the buckle is the date 1901, inside is the townmark of Tiflis (1908 - 1915), silver content 84 and the stamp of I. Sazikov.

Weight: 1100g (Poor woman!)

Only very rich people could afford to order a belt like that in Moscow or St. Petersburg.

The belt

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 04-04-2005 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting and intricate piece. It must have taken quite a long time to make. Thanks for sharing.

By the way, I note a coincidence in names -- are you related to the court jeweler, or do you use his name in his honor?

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wev
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iconnumber posted 04-04-2005 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the buckle image upside down or is the figure meant to be inverted? If the latter, does this have some significance?

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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 04-04-2005 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
swarter -
my pseudoname is a homage to one of many famous silversmiths I adore as a collector of Russian silver

Wev-
the belt lies upside down to see the ornated rim better. If the belt (buckle) is closed, the figure is hidden.

Thanks for your interest.

Sazikov2000

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 04-05-2005 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I first read this post from sazikov2000, I too noted the homage paid. From what I understand, sazikov2000 is very knowledgeable about Russian silver, and must certainly have cultivated good taste in those works and their makers. So I went looking through "Zolotoe i Serebryanoe delo XV-XX" to find this maker (Thanks again, S2K). It seems that there were a number of smiths named Sazikov, or Sazikova--In Russian, the surnames of women are always a feminized form of their masculine counterparts. Also, in Russian, one's full name traditionally included a middle name derived from the given name of one's father (the patronymic, as it's called). So it isn't difficult, looking at the Sazikov silversmiths, to presume that Pavel Fedorovich Sazikov is the father of Ignatii Pavlovich Sazikov, etc. There looks to be a good, healthy line of Sazikov makers into the 20th century. So, S2K, do tell us, why especially have you selected Sazikov for your alias, and is there any particular member of this family whose work you admire most? Do you have any other photographs showing great examples of such works? I'm absolutely sure you have a few in your collection. I'm just curious about this maker (as well as all great silversmiths).

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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 04-05-2005 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where to start and where to end?

Why Sazikov?

What is the nicest piece in my collection?

I really do not know.

Sazikov2000

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agleopar

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Part of the joy of the Forums is the way in which one can go from the mundane to the heights of silver mountains that one only could catch a glimpse of through the clouds of misinformation. Sazikov 2000 has always shot right to the top of those peaks and now we know why.
Thank you for sharing.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 04-06-2005 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Sazikov, thank you for allowing people interested in the "Silver-Forum" to enjoy your extraordinary private collection with the aid of your impressive photographs.

Thank you so much!
Dorothee


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