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Cindy
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iconnumber posted 05-24-2000 08:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi I'm in search of where I can find information on a piece of Jewelry my sister has, she has left this task for me to do on the Internet. She has a Sliver spoon ring and in the inside it states Rogers Brothers 1847 and there's a small imprint inside that she can't really make out. I've told to get a stonger glass to make the image larger for her to see it. Can you help me and maybe lead me in the right direction as to where I can find information on this item. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks you from the heart.

Cindy

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-24-2000 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What exactly are you trying to find out?

What you are describing is a silver plate spoon/fork handle which has been cut down and bent into a ring. Most often this is done to worn/damaged silver plated forks/spoons such that the only way to salvage something is to make it into a ring/a key ring or melt it down.

1847 Rogers Brothers is the name of the manufacturer of the spoon/fork; the 1847 doesn't indicate the year they that made it. As it regards the other marks, without a better description there isn't much to say.

Most silverphiles will turn up their noses at the thought of this type of adulterated item. So don't be surprised at some responses you may receive. Be this as it may, here is a little known but a true story.

Many years ago two friends got a bunch of old worn silver plate forks and spoon at a yard sale. One of the friends had the equipment and manpower to turn the spoons into rings and key rings. They tried selling them at the local flea market and did surprisingly well. So they set out to buy more old silver plate. Soon they found themselves with so much stock for making rings that they could be in business for a long time. Sales of the rings remained brisk.

Then one day someone asked them if they had a spoon in a particular pattern. The person was pointing to one of their key rings as an example. Since they had just purchased a big box of old silver plate from another flea market seller, they suggested that the person look in the box. The person found what they were looking for. After the purchase, the buyer turned to the sellers and asked if they had more silver plate spoons and forks in good condition. Soon they were selling their good condition spoons and forks for a lot more than their rings and key rings.

Don't ask me who these dealers are. I am not sure they want this story known. Over the many years since they began at flea markets they have become two of the most highly regarded and best known antique silver dealers in the country.

I hope your sisters purchase leads you both into the world of collecting and preserving wonderful old silver.

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 05-24-2000 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spoon rings are generally created by sawing the handle off of a spoon and bending it into a ring. Some people see this as a good use for unwanted flatware; other see it as the destruction of an antique. Either way, most of these rings seem to have been made recently, within the past 15 years.

1847 Rogers is a well known silver plate "brand", put out by International Silver company. You can still buy new 1847 Rogers silverplate. Therefore, your spoon ring is almost certainly silver plate, possibly replated after conversion to a ring to make it look nicer. If you can post a picture of the pattern, we can probably tell you what the pattern name was.

Hope this helps.

Brent

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 04-04-2003 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beware of "beef forks" and wind chimes with the same kind of marks!

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 04-04-2003 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was in high school ('76 graduate) spoon rings were hugely popular. You could find them in any flea market, new pieces were in the mall, and mine was sterling, ordered directly from Gorham through a magazine ad (wish I'd clipped and kept it). Seem to remember the ad saying they were recasts of an old birth flower series. I do still have the ring, it's a Lily of the Valley pattern that oddly enough, I've never run across again, even though I'm always on the lookout for LotV spoons. My guess is that a lot of the spoon rings turning up in the last few years have been from women my age cleaning out their jewelry boxes!

Cheryl ;o)

Good lord, what a gigantic image!!! Looks like something for colossal woman.

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 04-04-2003 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a gargantuan post! Seems like Gorham copied the form... and used their own marks(?).

Form changes (the latest cottage industries seem to be key rings and beef forks -- plenty of them on that big on-line-auction site) are still being done.

[This message has been edited by Stephen (edited 04-04-2003).]

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 04-04-2003 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Attack of the Giant Spoon Rings!!! Angry, maimed silver creatures mutate and rise up against their abusers! Hide your children before they succomb to unnatural urges to wear silverware on body parts!!! RUN!!!!!

Okay, so I'm sleep deprived and starting to hallucinate.

I'm sure Gorham was trying to cash in on a hot trend. As I recall, the seventies was not great for silver flatware producers. The ring is marked STERLING with the lion-anchor-G.

Cheryl ;o)

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