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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have a 12 piece ivory(?) handled fish set and have had no luck in deciphering the hallmarks. It appears to be W & ? S a The box the last a is in has a pointed bottom. Above these mark is EP with a crown inside of a shield. I believe the "ep" stands for "electroplate"

Thanks so much for your help.

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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a new pocket guide to English electroplate, of which your set is an example.

An EP mark almost always signifies electroplate.

This guide attributes an almost identical mark to a Walker (no first name) of Sheffield, with a date range of 1852-1897. On the other hand, your mark also resembles that of William Wheatcroft Harrison, also of Sheffield, 1857-1896. As your mark appears to read W & H S a, perhaps this is a mark of Walker and Harrison together? That would be my guess. The S may signify "Sons", or the H and S may stand for Harris -Son.

I hope this helps.

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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Brent for your informative reply. I will continue to search and now, thanks to you, I can be more focused. Could the last [a] be a date mark? What is the title of the book you referred to? I think I need this book.

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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 07:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Brent that it is "Walker", but I'm sure it is Walker and Hall, and the "S" would stand for Sheffield (as opposed to Birmingham, where they also had a factory). The fact that there is a crown over the EP means it was made prior to 1896, as the use of the crown on silverplate was banned after that date because of confusion with the town mark of Sheffield (which is a crown also). The book referred to is excellent, "Electroplated Nickel Silver, Old Sheffield Plate etc. Makers' Marks from 1784" by George Mappin, published by Foulsham Publishing. It is under $15.00, and I bought my copy from Spencer Marks. I've never been aware that Walker & Hall used a dating system, so 'a' could possibly be the grade of plate (A-1 being the top).

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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Terrific Audrey. Thank you again. I will purchase the book on English electroplate marks, it seems like it is very useful--just what I've been looking for.

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