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toushoes

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iconnumber posted 11-28-2001 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toushoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I just found this forum and have to ask for help to identfy this pot. It has been floating around the family closets for 30+ years and no one has been able to get any info on it. It is Rogers, Smith & Co. New Haven Conn and has the number 1883 with a number 5 below it. (I assume this is not a date since I read "New Haven" was between 1863 and 1876. Is it a design number? I have never come across a reference to a shape like this pot has. with the angular handle and spout and the large crown where the lid sits. Also the "stage area" where the motif is is mirror reflective and about 1/2 the pot has a softened reflection, I assume from some casting techinque? What is that called? I will try and attach a poor picture, just got a camera yesterday.

Sorry this is so long.

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iconnumber posted 11-28-2001 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toushoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya know you are new when you reply to your own post in order to add all the stuff you forgot the first time around... The pot is 11 inches tall. Would this be a teapot or a coffee pot? Also the picture is awful, but the motif on one side is a lyre-bird and on the flip side it is a 3 stalks of wheat or cotton or something similar, 2 blade shaped leaves and 3 stalks with a top that looks more like a grain head than a blossum of any sort. TIA for any info.

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iconnumber posted 12-09-2001 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toushoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone give me an idea as to what this style of pot is called? Or the type of finish that is part mirror bright and part a softened reflection? Also was Rogers, Smith & Co. (New Haven) all silverplate or did they do coin silver pieces too? How would that be indicated? Any info would be appreciated.

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iconnumber posted 12-09-2001 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rogers, Smith & Co. was formed in 1857 in Hartford, Connecticut, by William Rogers, Sr. and George W. Smith to manufacture silverplate flatware and holloware.. In 1862, Edward Mitchell bought the holloware division and moved it to New Haven, Connecticut. Holloware goods were marked New Haven (like on your silverplate teapot) between 1862-77.

As is regards the finish (bright/soften) this was accomplished a variety of ways. A good close up of the finish might reveal which technique was used or it might require personal inspection. But generally, before applying the silverplate, if the base metal is unpolished or additionally textured with an light application of acid then the silver plating will have a softer look than the base metal parts that are polished to a smooth mirror like finish.

The 1883 is most likely the part/production number. The 5 may mean the there are at least 4 other pieces (numbered 1-4) in the tea set.

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