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rodmayo
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iconnumber posted 03-14-2002 11:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you please tell be the meaning of these markings?
Thanks
Rodney
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Brent

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iconnumber posted 03-15-2002 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We can tell from this picture that your flask is English silverplate. The chain of five marks on the right is the mark of the manufacturer. I think it is stamped upside down in relation to the others. If you can post a close-up of those marks, we might be able to tell you who made it.

As for the other marks, the numbers are probably internal company design numbers for the shape and/or decoration on the flask. Without a catalog or company documents, the usefulness of the numbers in minimal. The mark at the top is a mystery, for the moment.

Abercrombie & Fitch, in its original incarnation, was THE store for wanna-be sportsmen and adventurers in New York City. If you wanted an elephant gun and a pith helmet for you African safari, you went to A&C. I would imagine that a lot of their merchandise never went anywhere wilder than a New York apartment, much like SUVs today that never leave the pavement. Still, they were dream merchants, and in their heyday they captured the imagination of the grey-flannel masses yearning to break free.

I hope this helps!

Brent

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iconnumber posted 03-16-2002 06:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This I certainly believe is a Civil War period item and with the wear on the corners I am inclined to believe Sterling and not plate but before I list it on eBay I wanted to know for sure.

Thanks, and would you be afraid to call it silver?

Rodney

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iconnumber posted 03-16-2002 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm afraid that the flask IS either silverplate or nickel silver. If the corners are worn and no base metal is showing through, it is likely nickel silver, otherwise known as german silver. This material looks a lot like actual silver, but it is an alloy of nickel and copper. Producers of silverplate sometimes made a line of nickel silver items as well.

If the flask were sterling, it would bear English sterling hallmarks. The marks on the flask are, unfortunately, not sterling hallmarks, but a silverplater's trademark.

The McKinley Tariff act required foreign goods to be stamped with the country of origin after 1898 (I think), and the "MADE IN..." became mandatory after 1912. So, anything marked "MADE IN ENGLAND" would, unfortunately, be from after 1912.

I did some research, and found that Abercrombie & Fitch was founded in 1892, long after the Civil War, and went bankrupt in 1977, a bit after I had thought.

Sorry to be giving you bad news, but it is the truth. I hope this helps!

Brent

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iconnumber posted 02-08-2003 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The McKinley Tariff act was passed in 1890.

"J D & S" is a mark of James Dixon & Sons, Sheffield, England, as is the "bugle (trumpet?) and banner" trademark.

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