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Annette

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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi:
I'm having trouble identifying a boxed set of two silver plated ornate berry spoons. The hallmark reads a sun (or star) symbol No A1, sun/star symbol then EP in a shield. The spoons are 9-inches long.

Thank you for your help.
Annette

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, an example of English electroplate on a Nickel or German silver base. Unfortunately, this mark does not show up in the new guide to electroplate marks. They are definitely English, though. Sorry!

NoA1 is supposed to be a mark of quality. You see A1 a lot on American silver plate, particularly from the Victorian era. Interestingly, the use of A1 as a mark of quality arises from Lloyd's of London, the legendary maritime insurance house. Insurance inspectors rate ships as to their seaworthiness, and thus their standing as an insurance risk. A1 is the highest rating.

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Annette

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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you again Brent. Knowing that this set is English is a huge help. I had read that A1 guaranteed a certain amount of silver in the plating, but I haven't seen any thing with NoA1. Very interesting about the mark stemming from insurance risk rating. The material underneath the plating is quite gold is this indicative of nickle or German silver or neither?

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Audrey Goffin
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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 07:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mappin Brothers, used little sun-like devices on their silverplate, but the listed marks don't really match the ones on your berry spoons. It's a thought!

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Audrey Goffin
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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 07:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The base metal German (or nickel) silver has a slight lemony yellow color when the silverplate wears off. Many times on berry spoons the bowls were gilded to prevent discoloration if actually used for fruit, so are yours gilded??

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Annette

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iconnumber posted 06-09-2000 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your reply and information Audrey. No, the bowls are not gilded, the plating appears to have worn off on the fruit (blueberries & gooseberries I think).

I will check into Mappin Bros. and see what I can find out. Thanks again.

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 05-08-2003 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brent, are you still convinced that these are English?

I have my doubts. I think the marks look like pseudo English plater's marks.

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