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Jen
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iconnumber posted 04-24-2003 11:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone tell me what this is and possibly a time period it was made in? It is marked "Reed & Barton No. 5". Stands 4 1/4" tall by 4 5/8" round. There are four scenes - two ship scenes... one of a man kissing the queen's foot... and one of same man accepting peace pipe from indian. Cover has a deer/stag within a shield surrounded by some kind of leaves.

I was thinking maybe tea or tobacco leaves.

ANY ideas???

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 04-24-2003 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on the style of the mark and the colonial motif, I would say that the time period is the 1910s or 1920s. The lack of a date mark would date it to before 1928.

I'm not sure what it would have been sold as. You may want to contact Reed & Barton:

  • Reed & Barton
    144 West Brittania St.
    Taunton, MA 02780
  • 1-800-343-1383
  • information@reedbarton.com

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Jen
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iconnumber posted 04-24-2003 08:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stephen, Thank you for your reply.

I've already contacted information@reedbarton.com and they replied

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Thank you for taking the time to contact Reed & Barton Silversmith's. Reed & Barton Silversmiths does not maintain extensive historical data on every product it manufactures. However, we are happy to send our customers any available information concerning their particular inquiry. We do reserve 4-6 weeks to research each inquiry. Reed & Barton is not a certified appraiser,
therefore we can not give out information on a value of any item. You may wish to contact the American Society of Appraiser's to find a local appraiser in your area @ 703-478-2228.

I wasn't looking for an appraisel from them, just some idea of what it was.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 04-24-2003 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given that it illustrates Sir Walter Raleigh receiving tobacco from the Indians and taking it back to Elizabeth, I would say a tobacco canister would hit the mark. This was a very popular motif -- my grandfather had one in tooled leather.

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 04-24-2003 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jen, thanks for posting your response from Reed & Barton.

I like wev's answer, but it might be interesting to see what R&B could come up with in "4-6 weeks". They might have the old catalogs, advertising, or production records.

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Jen
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iconnumber posted 05-09-2003 06:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys are good! I just received a reply from the Reed & Barton Archivist. Here's what they said.....

This is a tobacco canister, which we believe was made here at our Taunton Plant, at some time, prior to WW2, possibly between 1900-1920.

We can not find a photo, or last retail on the piece in our records.

It is a series of images to depect the old story of how Sr. Walter Raliegh got funding from the Queen of England, to sail to the New World (North America), and upon ariving here, he learned of TOBACCO from the Native American People, and brought it back, and introduced this product to Europe.

The top is engraved with tobacco leaves, and the center plaque may be the coat-of-arms of Sr. Walter Raliegh...The other panels represent his ship sailing 'to and from' the new world, his getting permision from the queen, and his meeting with a native american chief to obtain TOBACCO.

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 05-09-2003 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again, and I imagine that his coat-of-arms is out there on the web somewhere. Happy hunting!

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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 05-29-2003 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this really Walter Raleigh?

According to many sources Sir Francis Drake also introduced tobacco to England after rescuing a colony of settlers in Virginia.

Could the stag/deer on the cover of this tobacco canister be a reference to Drake's ship, the "Golden Hind" (hind is, I think, a female deer, my dictionary is not a hand)?

Raleigh's coat of arms, I believe, contains a cloak (a reference to te cloak he supposedly once threw over a puddle for Queen Elizabeth to walk over).

Drake returned from his Golden Hind expedition to Plymouth, perhaps this is relevant to the West of England origin of this piece (Taunton).

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