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burchardgalleries Posts: 21 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-05-2003 04:49 PM Please help me identify this mark, thank you. Danna IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 06-05-2003 05:23 PM Have you tried searching this forum for bugle? IP: Logged
burchardgalleries Posts: 21 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-06-2003 09:23 AM Bugle means plated silver. IP: Logged
burchardgalleries Posts: 21 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-06-2003 09:35 AM OK, found it. When confirming bugle finally found the rest. James Dixon & Sons Sheffield England 1835-1920. [This message has been edited by Stephen (edited 06-06-2003).] IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 06-06-2003 11:31 AM I don't understand what you mean by "Bugle means plated silver" or "1835-1920". Can you explain? [This message has been edited by Stephen (edited 06-06-2003).] IP: Logged
burchardgalleries Posts: 21 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-06-2003 01:24 PM Found company in Encyclopedia of American Silver Manufacturers Revised Fourth Edition by Dorothy T. Rainwater & Judy Redfield, page 93. The mark shown above corresponds to company name James Dixon & Sons from 1835 to 1920. Other names and marks through the years, starting in 1806 as Dixon & Smith til last noted name of Betashire, Ltd James Dixon & Sons, 1982. They used the bugle to mark plated silver items. IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 06-06-2003 01:48 PM Thanks, other references indicate that the style of mark shown in your photo (JD&S in clipped rectangles and a circle) was used from 1879 until about 1935. IP: Logged
burchardgalleries Posts: 21 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-06-2003 02:33 PM Maybe I'll play it safe and just say c1900 IP: Logged
doobees Posts: 277 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 06-06-2003 03:12 PM Danna, do you mind if I ask, just what is a "folding biscuit box?" IP: Logged
burchardgalleries Posts: 21 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-06-2003 04:07 PM VICTORIAN SILVER PLATE FOLDING BISCUIT BOX: James Dixon & Sons, Sheffield, England, circa 1900, double shell design, push button biscuit box with gilt interior and pierced liners, approx. size overall 11" x 9 1/2" x 4 1/2". [This message has been edited by burchardgalleries (edited 06-06-2003).] IP: Logged
Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-06-2003 04:28 PM Given the possible date range, souldn't you also play safe with "Victorian"? She died in 1901. IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 06-06-2003 05:04 PM Danna, Helliwell's "Understanding Antique Silver Plate" shows one that appears to be identical to yours. He says -- quote: A late 19th century 9 1/2in (24.1cm) shell-fluted biscuit warmer by James Dixon and Sons of Sheffield. The two lids drop down to reveal compartments with hinged, pierced covers. Hot biscuits or muffins were stored inside the closed compartments and placed before an open fire, ensuring that the contents maintained their warmth. These spectacular pieces are now so popular they are being reproduced. Luckily, modern copies are easily recognisable, as their cast handles and feet lack the crisp detail of the originals. IP: Logged
burchardgalleries Posts: 21 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-06-2003 05:09 PM So what do you think it should be? If not Victorian then ???? Edwardian? IP: Logged
burchardgalleries Posts: 21 Registered: May 2003	posted 06-06-2003 05:11 PM Thanks Stephen IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 06-06-2003 10:18 PM Personally, I'd go with "late nineteenth century", but nothing wrong with c1900 or Victorian. Just a question of style, and you're the expert when it comes to your audience. Good luck with it. IP: Logged
Stephen Posts: 625 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 06-08-2003 10:14 AM Actually, c1890 might be better than c1900. Circa 1890, at least to me, means somewhere between 1880 and 1900. This would cover almost to the first use of the mark (1879) and Helliwell's "late nineteenth century." Victorian is pretty vague, covering the whole period of her reign which was 64 years, 1837-1901. And a lot of "Victorian" stuff was made long after she left the scene. IP: Logged

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