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olddog Posts: 2 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 07-09-2004 12:25 PM on the bottom of a wine goblet are these marks; the number (37) in an oval,the name ERCUIS, the ercuis hallmark, and the number (7) in a square. can anyone give me the meaning of the numbers 37 & 7 ? these golbets appear quite old with much use and have a name engraved on the side of the bowl. in four years i have not been able to date or trace these goblets. any help out there? olddog IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 07-09-2004 02:06 PM Found on the Internet: quote: The GOLDSMITHERY Of ERCUIS Born at Thury-under-Clermont in 1814, Adrien Pillon is named priest of Ercuis at 23 years. He finds the village in ruin and without resources. In 1847, he creates two schools. It publishes a periodical and a illustrated almanac, "the Rose tree of Marie". He builds a small castle, which will become in 1970, a convalescent home. Not wanting to leave his parishioners in misery, he gets an old farm where he creates in 1866, a manufacture of liturgical objects, chalices, ciboria... In 1870, it is in bankruptcy, he is dismissed. Fortunately a few years later, the venture is revived by Mr. George Ma�s, glass cutter in Clichy. The company turns to arts of the table; coffee and tea sets silver plated metal or, silver cutlery massive. He opens stores in Paris, in province and abroad. The mark "Ercuis" and its punch "the Centaur" are universally known. Ercuis equips the steamers "Island with France", "Normandy" and "Town of Algiers" of 1922 to 1937. In 1962, Ercuis provides its goldsmithery of table to "France" and "Orient-Express train". Today, the tradition is perpetuated thanks to the work of craftsmen and creators. Ercuis goldsmithery, 140 street of the Limes. Tel.: 03 44 26 54 92. Web site: Goldsmithery of Ercuis IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 07-09-2004 02:32 PM The above is clearly a poor translation. Here it is in French: quote: L'ORFEVRERIE D'ERCUIS Né à Thury-sous-Clermont en 1814, Adrien Pillon est nommé curé d'Ercuis à 23 ans. Il trouve le village en ruine et sans ressources. En 1847, il crée deux écoles. Il édite un périodique et un almanach illustré, "Le Rosier de Marie". Il édifie un petit château, qui deviendra en 1970, une maison de repos. Ne voulant pas laisser ses paroissiens dans la misère, il se procure une ancienne ferme où il crée en 1866, une manufacture d'objets du culte, calices, ciboires... En 1870, c'est la faillite, il est démis de ses fonctions. Heureusement quelques années plus tard, l'entreprise est remise sur pieds par Mr Georges Maës, cristallier à Clichy. L'entreprise se tourne vers les arts de la table; services à thé et à café, couvert en argent massif ou métal argenté. Elle ouvre des magasins à Paris, en province et à l'étranger. La marque "Ercuis" et son poinçon "Le Centaure" sont mondialement connus. Ercuis équipe les paquebots "Ile de France", "Normandie" et "Ville d'Alger" de 1922 à 1937. En 1962, Ercuis fournit son orfèvrerie de table au "France" et l"Orient-Express". Aujourd'hui, la tradition est perpétuée grâce à l'oeuvre d'artisans et de créateurs. Orfèvrerie Ercuis, 140 rue des Tilleuls. Tél : 03 44 26 54 92. Site Web :Orfèvrerie d'Ercuis IP: Logged
olddog Posts: 2 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 07-09-2004 02:41 PM mr. martin; thank you for your reply. if you run across anything on there hallmarks please forward. again thanks steven baumgardner olddog IP: Logged

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