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Cletus C Cornflake

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iconnumber posted 07-16-2004 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cletus C Cornflake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found some silverplate this morning...
it has English style Letters stamped on the back of each piece...they have boxes around them
K S In and then what appears to be a little birds head..
Any help

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iconnumber posted 07-31-2004 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lj123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a similar mark on a EPC tray. Mine says Nordic Art, then the four marks. The marks are slightly different, the first I can't make out, maybe an I, then S, then a G perhaps, and the eagle. Next is EPC 4463. The tray has a "hammered" appearance with nice handles.
Sorry I don't a photo. I'm watching too see if any clues show up as to the "bird" mark. PS: My tray is most likely a very nice modern schlok!

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iconnumber posted 08-04-2004 12:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi this is Pumpkin (registered), but again i can't log into the sytem from my computer (getting old like me)

I have the same marks on a covered dish - but since it tarnished i used silver cleaner on it...hope i didn't destroy it. i didn't know silver-plate tarnished. (i'm very new to this silver thing do companies that deal with silverplate also deal with silver..does silverplate tarnish). I've been trying to find out about the marks, but i couldn't get a clear pix to post. I have someone looking into this for me also, I'll them them to check this post.

Can you tell me how you got a pix, i tried a micro zoom, regular zoom, w/flash - without flash....all i got was an image of my camera.

Thanks for posting that made my life easier to know it's not a one-of-a-kind thing.

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iconnumber posted 08-04-2004 01:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's pumpkin again,
i forgot to say that on the top of the dish
there is a lion with wings wearing a crown...
or some creature but he looks like a lion to me...


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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 08-04-2004 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi this is Pumpkin (registered), but again i can't log into the sytem from my computer (getting old like me)

Pumpkin - if you can browse this page then you can log in. If you are having trouble remembering your password, then change it (click here to change your PROFILE). Remember your ID and password are case sensitive. PUMPKIn is not the same as pumpkiN.

Most macro lenses will produce some level of acceptable results. Have you read your camera's manual? Many a camera require that you change a setting before using the macro lens.

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iconnumber posted 08-05-2004 12:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's pumpkin from work! at home i have no problems, i don't think i'm supposed to be doing this from here....

as for the camera, i did set it to micro and held the dish at different angles but it didn't work.

I do appreciate all your help

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iconnumber posted 08-10-2004 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Your marks are for the Forbes Silver Co., a division of International Silver.It was started in 1894 as a lower-priced silverplate hollowware line from the Meriden Britannia Co., and the name was used by International Silver for many years. I'm pretty sure that this style of mark is only found on pieces post-1920 or so. I have a nice Nordic Art bowl myself, which I would date to the late 1920s or 30's. Anyway, it is definitely American silverplate of the 20th C.

Hope this helps!


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helpme please
iconnumber posted 08-12-2004 12:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes a lot of sense, I think my uncle's wife had family that worked for international silver - or knew someone who did. Most of my aunt's silver says "international silver".

Quick question about silverplate - does it tarnish and can you use regular silver polish on it? I couldn't find any way to clean silverplate on the internet.

My covered-dish was black and i used silver polish on it but it looks spotty. Unless I have to clean it again. There are no silver amounts on this (learned that from this site)

The only silver i owned before my aunt passed was a silver braclet and i just dropped that in silver jewelry cleaner.

This "silver" or "silver plated" thing is a little more confusing then 18k vs 14k gold.

Thanks for your help,
Pumpkin (keepin my fingers crossed we don't get hit with Charley)

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 08-12-2004 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

As you know, silverplate is a thin layer of real silver over a base metal. Consequently, it does tarnish. However, sometimes silverplate simply wears off with age and use, so if a silverplate item is dark in appearance, it might be just tarnished, or the silver layer might have actually worn off, exposing the base metal. If the silverplate is only tarnished, I would polish it using a gentle cream cleaner such as Wright's Silver Cream. If the silverplate is worn off, you won't be able to restore the silver color without the expensive and controversial process of replating (controversial because purists don't like the overly shiny new finish it produces).

You also mention dropping something in jewelry cleaner. I do not recommend using chemical dips, unless that is the last resort. For the most part, normal tarnish and dirt from age can be cleaned off using the aforementioned Wright's product. The problem with dips is that they are usually quite potent, so in dipping a piece, the cleaner removes all of the tarnish, even the dark patina in crevices that gives antique pieces such nice definition.

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