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iconnumber posted 09-03-2004 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oddbodprimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a silver cocktail mixer that I have no idea where the hallmarks are from or the age of this piece. There are 3 sheilds on the bottom which have the letter F or T in the first shield, then an S in the next, followed by either a T or C in the next. All letters really gothic in font styles. The shields are pointed at the tops and bottoms of them. Next to the 3 shields and not in any shield of its own is a picture of a head of a bird and below that is stamped E395 and below that is 80 oz. Any ideas?

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iconnumber posted 09-03-2004 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Two things might help you to get more participation from other members.

1) It would help if people understood why you wanted to know about these items. Mostly they would want to understand that it is not your intent to use the info gleamed for business purposes. If this is unclear, Please refer to the SSF Guidelines.

2) Putting a lot of items up all at once will also slow the responses. Especially until the other members have gotten to know you and your motivations.[/QUOTE]

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iconnumber posted 09-03-2004 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oddbodprimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in the process of trying to find out the ages and the makers of these pieces that I have had for a long time and am not interested in selling them and never will.

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iconnumber posted 09-03-2004 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The concept of dating pieces from the mark is one that does not work well for silverplate. Some kinds of sterling can be dated by the marks, but not all sterling. Same for silverplate. There is some than can be nailed down to a time period from the marks, but most can not.

This is because there are all sorts of things the mark can represent. It can be the mark of the maker. Or of the retailer. Or of a specific design line. Or of the wholesaler. Or of a selling plan like parties. Or it can indicate how the item was sold.

What we can do is look at the piece and figure out a style. From the style we can work out a time period. Frequently these periods are very long: Colonial Revival type designs have been around since the 1890's.

Generally, cocktail shakers date from 1920 into the late 1960's. There are styles and sizes that let us pin down a time. But there is always the caveat: the time we are most certain of is when it began being made. We really don't know when, or even if, production ceased.

The simple classically tailored punch bowl with ladle has been produced from the 1850's down into the present. Many of these are commercial items made for caterers, restaurants and clubs. Again, a view of the piece can help. And the dimensions, which give a real clue to the original intended user, are a real help.

Sorry if this does not help you. Pictures and dimensions would do a lot to help me come up with an age.

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