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pete Posts: 30 Registered: Jul 2003	posted 10-29-2004 08:37 AM Hello folks: This ladle was given to me by my father 1 week ago which I had no idea that he had this. It was given to him some time ago as a payment for a small welding job he seems to think $5.00 plus this ladle. We are not sure if this is silver plate or silver but it is very heavy and weights 3/4 pd. If anyone might know the maker and if it silver or plate? I will try and put up some pictures if I can. The 2 marks are (inside the bowl: a,anchor,f,anchor is in the middle of the a and the number 1,2, on either side of the anchor. The second mark is (blanc 3) on top and then (a frenais)on bottom. Thank you for the help on this one IP: Logged
pete Posts: 30 Registered: Jul 2003	posted 10-29-2004 08:39 AM here are the hallmarks..thanks for the help. IP: Logged
Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 Registered: May 2003	posted 10-29-2004 08:50 AM Nice piece, although I don't know the maker. I'm pretty sure it is French silverplate. "Metal blanc" was a white base metal used in the latter 19th century, and I guess 3 may refer to the thickness of the silver plating. IP: Logged
pete Posts: 30 Registered: Jul 2003	posted 10-29-2004 11:06 AM Thanks Patrick for the info Would I be in the right forum for this piece? Also when you say latter 19th century that means 1890'S or so? Thanks again for your help always enjoy stopping here, there is a wealth of knowledge here. IP: Logged
Dale Posts: 2132 Registered: Nov 2002	posted 10-29-2004 01:11 PM This looks very much like an aesthetic movement design. Which would place it in the period 1870 to 1895; more or less. A very nice ladle. How big is it? IP: Logged
pete Posts: 30 Registered: Jul 2003	posted 10-29-2004 02:00 PM The ladle is 13" long with the bowl at 3.5"wide. Really impressive and heavy, also has great details to it. IP: Logged
heatherjanemcc Posts: 16 Registered: Oct 2004	posted 10-30-2004 09:40 AM Does anyone know what these ladles were typically used for? Last year I gave a similar one to a friend. I couldn't identify the marks at the time, but it had the most incredibly beautiful, finely cast details on the handle--delicate, Grecian-style ornament. Now I believe it to be French silverplate. Can anyone recommend a reference book for French silverplate--I was impressed by the quality of the piece (as I am by the one posted here) and I'd like to know more. IP: Logged
Kayvee Posts: 204 Registered: Oct 2004	posted 10-30-2004 04:02 PM This is a soup ladle by a well-known maker, Armand Frenais. I don't believe that the company is still in business. Most French makers today and in the past produced both silver and silverplate items. I don't know of a book specifically about French silverplate makers. IP: Logged
pete Posts: 30 Registered: Jul 2003	posted 10-31-2004 08:14 AM Thanks kayvee We always wondered about this piece and the name; so now we know. So from my reading in previous posts that this is silver plate but might have some silver and being of a white base metal. Its pretty amazing that such an old piece has survived all these years. Thanks Pete IP: Logged

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