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RWS888

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iconnumber posted 03-30-2006 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RWS888     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello out there...this is my first posting, and I have the following question--

I’m working on a trophy cup awarded to Strong Museum founder Margaret Woodbury Strong’s daughter Barbara at a horse show in 1936. It has an obvious and completely intact gold-washed interior, and the remains of a lacquer coating on the exterior...but now only on the backside and foot, where it has turned an even "gold" tone. I believe the coating on the frontside must have been removed at some earlier time, perhaps to enhance the engraving located there. Since nitrocellulose lacquers will darken with age, I am assuming this is the case and I am planning to remove it, re-polish the silverplate underneath as required, and apply a new clear coating to the exterior only...enhancing and protecting the silver color of the plate.

But before I remove it, I would like to ask the following: Has anyone seen instances of applicatons of INTENTIONALLY tinted lacquers used to give a silverplated object such as this trophy cup a gold-toned exterior? Certainly, tinted lacquers were used on occasion with certain object types, but I have long wondered if there are documented examples of silverplated objects with ORIGINAL "gold"-tinted lacquers applied to exterior silverplate surfaces.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 03-30-2006 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never heard of such a thing; but it's a fascinating idea. I know that Tibetans lacquer their gold with an orange tone to make it really gold; but I hadn't heard of this for silver or silverplate. How wise of you to even think of this.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 03-30-2006 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have encountered colored lacquers on silverplate. The most common has been a blue, apparently to give the silver a deeper shine. I usually associate this with trophies.

But, if this was original or done at a later time, I really can't say. Generally, color on silverplate was done with spot plating not lacquers.

Good question, hope someone knows the answer. Or more likely the many answers.

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 03-31-2006 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what you mean, but I am assuming you mean a translucide layer (like a varnish) which covers the metal, but doesn't hide it?
If so, I don't think you will find many natural lacquered objects: first of all natural lacquer takes very badly to a polished metal surface: it tends to chip off after a while, secondly I think it would be softening rather than enhancing the silver or gold tone.
It looks to me that the lacquer (or varnish) used had to be of articicial origin. Are you sure the piece wasn't lightly gilded? Sometimes gilding was apllied very softly to give a gold shine, just like with antique pieces where the gilding faded through cleaning etc.

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iconnumber posted 03-31-2006 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If by artificial you mean synthetic, then natural lacquers have been applied to metals - brass and silver as long as they have been used in scientific and musical instruments - for centuries and have survived intact to the present day if not mistreated. I have examples over 200 years old with their original lacquer coats still intact. Formulae fot these lacquers can be found in any number of books, and while it is dificult to find all of the ingredients, they still can be - and are - made today.

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