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Argent47

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iconnumber posted 12-28-2004 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Argent47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[08-0403]

Hello

Please can anyone help with the following. Purchased recently are two little silver/silverplate mustard pots (?) with the following identification, all one below the other:-

  1. Shield containing the letters MP
  2. Crown similar to the one found in the
    Norwich mark for 1665
  3. Little shield containing letters RIN?
  4. Flower (rose?) found on the same Norwich
    mark for 1665/1670
  5. 0val shield containing the capital letter
    A.

Tried to take a photo but marks too small.

Hopefully someone will recognize any of the marks?

Thanks. wink

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 12-28-2004 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try holding a magnifying glass over the marks when you take your picture

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Argent47

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iconnumber posted 12-28-2004 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Argent47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will try and do that - Thanks.

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blakstone

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iconnumber posted 12-28-2004 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure what you're describing are the marks of Thomas Prime & Sons of Birmingham, silver platers of the 2nd half of the 19th Century.

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Argent47

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iconnumber posted 12-28-2004 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Argent47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello again,

Thanks again.

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Argent47

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iconnumber posted 12-28-2004 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Argent47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Blackstone - I do not think it is a Birmingham piece as the "anchor" is missing. But of course, an anchor would appear on sterling silver only. I believe I will need to resize and reshoot the marks as they are not clear enough. Thanks !

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blakstone

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iconnumber posted 12-28-2004 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that's what I mean: that your item is silver plate, not sterling. Here is a good photo of Thomas Prime & Sons mark:

This does not have the "A" you mention, but Geo. Mappin's "Electroplated Nickel Silver, Old Sheffield and Close Plate Makers' Marks from 1784" (a very handy little book) confirms that the mark did appear with a Gothic "A1" in an oval. You'll note that your little shield with "RIN" may well be the middle letters of "PRIME" here.

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Argent47

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iconnumber posted 12-29-2004 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Argent47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found it in my little Bradbury last night and this confirmed your statement that it is J Prime from 1839.

Thanks !

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