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iconnumber posted 09-09-2005 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankyvc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


I have this hot water kettle with reg nr 36907 which dates the design to 1885. I think this is quite a special design if one looks at other designs of that era. Does somebody know the maker of this pot and if it is special?



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iconnumber posted 09-09-2005 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EPNS stands for "electroplated nickel silver." Silverplate marks were not regulated and, therefore, very difficult to pin down. The clover may indicate a maker or may just be a decorative pseudo-mark. The number is either a patten or order number. Wyler published a book on silverplate, which may be of use.

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iconnumber posted 09-22-2005 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankyvc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your reply Tom, I actually ordered the Wyler book from Amazon. Stil waiting for it though. I have seen the same jug somewhere in the meantime with only a slightly different handle made by J.Dixon & Son. I suppose that makes this one a Dixon too. I am looking further into it as to who might be the designer of this piece. Any help welcome. Thanks.

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iconnumber posted 09-22-2005 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Believe your maker is Barker Bros. of Birmingham, England. Would guess that the "36907" is more likely a manufacturer's stock number rather than a registered design number.

Cheryl ;o)

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iconnumber posted 09-22-2005 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect that something has been done to your handle. The basket weave is not really in keeping with the rest of the piece. It may be a modern addition.

Nice pot. Makers for items marked this way are very hard to track down.

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iconnumber posted 09-25-2005 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adelapt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This style of jug/pot seems to have been pretty popular in the early 20thC, and follows the taste set by Christopher Dresser. The number does appear to be a pattern/catalogue/order number, not a registration. The wickering of the handle looks quite normal for such a piece, and was popular for small coffee pots, one of which I have dated to the Edwardian period.

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