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Marc

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2007 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there all,

A simple question... Was real "sheffield plating" ever done in the USA, or was it all imported.

This question comes about a large 13" tall sheffield plated flagon I saw with an "IG" makers mark in a rectangular cartouche on the bottom. The style & wire work thumb piece tells me it is c. 1800, but my reference books list no platers from that time period in Great Britian, and only 2 silversmiths.

Could this piece have been made in the USA ?

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2007 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose there must have been, but none of the 63 silverplaters I have in my tree worked before 1820 or so. The earliest directory listing I have is Boston 1800: George Sutherland, silverplater on Hanover Street.

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2007 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you can find a library with a copy, see:

American Sheffield Plate
E. Alfred Jones
The Burlington Magazine for Connoisseurs, Vol. 30, No. 170 (May, 1917), pp. 179-181+183

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2007 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Certainly Sheffield Plate was imported (I have seen ads from the period); unsigned pieces (most of the later ones) could have been marked by the American resellers.

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2007 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was also William Healey silverplater at 62 Dock Street in the 1791 Philadelphia Directory

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2007 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the classes of objects for which there was the most demand from the domestic platers was horse tack and similar ornamentation, such as buckles (for both horse and man). Close-plating was probably involved, too.

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2007 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have also seen directory and census notations of "carriage plater" which I assumed was related to the buckle and harress trade.

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2007 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That always evoked for me images of what we used to do to our automobiles in the 50's and 60's. Status symbolism then and now.

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iconnumber posted 05-19-2007 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I happened onto this thread while browsing--can anyone point to an actual piece of 18th-century American-made silverplate (meaning fused plate in the Sheffield technique)? Can anyone, for that matter, point to an American-made piece of fused plate (not electroplate) of any pre-1840 period? I had never thought of it, but those references are tantalizing. Of course, I'm sure it's not marked--why would it be?--and thus we'll never know. I have a pair of federal simple Sheffield plate candlesticks that have been in my family forever--could they be American? Who will ever know?

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