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Dale

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I want to go over this text. It tells us a lot about the silver companies.

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iconnumber posted 09-20-2009 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
William Hood has an excellent overview of the viande style.

Modern flatware design: the viande/grille/vogue style

From his 2003 article:

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"Until about seventy years ago, the basic form of table knives had not changed for more than two centuries, although the materials used to make them and the ornamentation employed to decorate them had evolved over time. Except for folding types (1) and some individual fish knives, table knives had always had handles that were shorter than, or of equal length to, their blades. This changed in 1930 when a new style was introduced commercially. Variously called Viande, Grille, and Vogue, the new style called for the handle to be longer than the blade. The creator of this new form, the rationale behind it, its possible antecedents, the manufacturers who adopted it, the patterns in which it was made, and what eventually came of it are the basis of this article.

The story begins in 1927 or 1928, when nine architects were invited by the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City to design thirteen room settings for The Architect and the Industrial Arts, its eleventh exhibition of contemporary American design The organizers requested that all furnishings and accessories for a room be included, and they stipulated that no object to be displayed could already be in production. (2) For this event Eliel Saarinen, the distinguished Finnish-born architect and designer,3 created a dining room in shades of brown and tan, outfitted with four new patterns of flatware that were displayed on the dining room table (Fig. 1). (4)

The flatware prototypes (see Fig. 2) were made by Dominick and Haff, a New York City subsidiary of Reed and Barton of Taunton, Massachusetts; the Towle Manufacturing Company of Newburyport, Massachusetts; the International Silver Company of Meriden, Connecticut; and Rogers, Lunt and Bowlen Company (1901-) of Greenfleld, Massachusetts. Each pattern was comprised of a seven-piece place setting (fish fork, salad fork, dinner fork, fish knife, dinner knife, teaspoon, and tablespoon). All employed handles that were cylindrical, or a flattened cylinder, tapering toward the base and topped by a skyscraper-inspired design. But the most remarkable thing was that the knives had unusually long handles and proportionally short blades. (5) The dinner knife executed by International Silver, for example, was 9 1/4 inches long, with its handle measuring about 6 inches. The handle of its dinner fork was about average (approximately 5 inches), but the functional end was shorter than usual, to match the abbreviated knife blade. The idea for the new style of table knife came from the perception that it is uncomfortable for the extended index finger to press against the narrow back (or "top") of the blade when one cuts with' a conventional knife. Saarinen's remedy was to extend the handle so that the forefinger made contact with a wider, and hence more "comfortable," part of the implement. (6)"


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As William Hood so ably demonstrates, the viande style was the first silverware change 'in generations'. The last 1847 Rogers pattern to use it was Daffodil 1950. For eating food, viande style knives and forks really do work better.

The other innovation described is 'Pieces of Eight', a play on pirate's slang that introduces a new standard measure into the silverware trade. Silver is now sold in units of 8 rather than 6, so one purchase can provide for a small family. Later on in the Depression, this was reduced to 4, which allowed for the progression 4,6,12. When things got really bad, the place setting was invented.

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iconnumber posted 09-20-2009 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In addition to the companies named by Mr Hood; Prestige, Nobility, Wallace and Harmony House, a Sears brand made by Wallace, featured the viande option.

I recall seeing sterling viande in IS Wedgwood.

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