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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 06-26-2010 11:49 AM
  
A few years ago I had the pleasure of discovering my first piece of Old Sheffield Plate. Different items I have been watching for years before I bought. I have heard of OSP, but never known what to look for. Ohh I must have passed many nice things without knowing - but saying EP no good. But one day I made my first discovery. It is a few years ago. We wait with that one - this is the finding of today. Front of this and back of it At the last pictures you can see the sandwich construction. IP: Logged |
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 06-26-2010 12:11 PM
Nice one! IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 06-26-2010 01:57 PM
Indeed it is. OSP was invented 1742 by Thomas Boulsover - he discovered that a silver plate could be fastened to a cobber plate. By fusion - hammering heating. To my knowledge the use of OSP was around 10 years later and it was replaced by Electro Plate was invented. Around 1830/1840 the use of OSP was limited. EP was cheaper and served same purpose. OSP can be engraved - but not much. Silversmiths took the challenge and invented deep cut engraving. A technique that OSP could not math - because copper then became visible. OSP is a construction silver-copper-silver or it could be only 2 layer silver on copper. IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 06-26-2010 02:07 PM
 This is copper on silver - used for ?? So we have two questions so far. Age of my tray (sissor missing) IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 01-05-2011 02:12 PM
So old Sheffield plate is not this site?? Shame on you. So what do I have here? Nothing you like? I can even polish it IP: Logged |
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Marc Posts: 414 |
posted 01-05-2011 04:32 PM
Hi there Hose, Wax Jack.. Really neat piece. Used for rolls of wax placed on bar and fed through the hole in the top.. commen in 18 th and 19 th c. although I have some 20 th c copies. Marc IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 01-06-2011 01:08 AM
Indeed I bought it in November at a antique marked. As so often seller was not fully aware of age. In Denmark Sheffield plate is mistaken for electro plated and therefore considered younger than actually. November and I have had time to polish but not to buy the wax candle. I will try next weekend, as I am going to the market in Forum, Copenhagen. Unfortunately it is not hall marked in any way. I have tried to get one of candlesticks, but have not succeeded until now. I found this at a reasonable price. My estimate would be first quarter 18 - 1800-1825 or around. IP: Logged |
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Marc Posts: 414 |
posted 03-07-2011 10:26 PM
Hi Hose and every one else.. I just picked another wax jack to add to my collection, (photo tomorrow) and have been looking for a wax roll for it. Help..!.. Where can I get a roll of wax.? Looked on internet, but no luck... Thanks in advance.. Marc IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 03-08-2011 01:18 AM
Commercial links are verboten here, but if you google "coil candle" or "candle by the hour" I think you'll find refills are readily available. Hope this helps! IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 03-08-2011 12:49 PM
I've found beeswax coil or rope candle refills for my modern holder quite easily, couple of local gift shops carry them, but find them cheaper online even with shipping. Have a friend with a couple of antique brass wax-jacks with collars rather than clips to hold the candle (similar in principle to the one Hose shows), the standard rope was too thick (3/8", just under 1 cm), he was talking to a candle-maker about making some for him. Being fairly crafty and having experience with coil pottery, polymer clay rolls and hand-rolling beeswax candles, decided to experiment - cut a 4 foot length, he held a blow-dryer on low while, starting at the center and working out, I gently rolled the coils a bit thinner (2-3 mm smaller) on his granite countertop, nipped off the excess wax until we found the wick, then measured off the 4' to locate the other end of the wick. They worked very nicely, and while it may sound like a pain, was really pretty simple and only took a few minutes..... ~Cheryl [This message has been edited by dragonflywink (edited 03-08-2011).] IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 03-08-2011 01:15 PM
At the internet this can be bought for a 170 SEK equal to 20$. Is it really forbitten to tell who is selling post order? Could we do one little .....? I will not tell unless forum master gives permission. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 03-08-2011 02:03 PM
No need for a link since blakstone gave an good answer: quote: IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 03-08-2011 02:18 PM
Yes and noone here will go to Sweden anyhow. I had the link long ago but havent bought yet. I have just ordered - should try to see how it looks. IP: Logged |
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Marc Posts: 414 |
posted 03-08-2011 11:07 PM
Thanks Blakstone , for the proper wording... Looking on internet for "Wax Jack", and got photos of our 'wax jacks', and also of a cptn Jack Sparrow, and Jack Nicholson, from somebody's "Wax" museum. Frightening! Also a shout out to Cheryl.. good for you. I am afraid that if I tried it, my workroom / trailer / home, would catch on fire, and I would have to relocate to a better part of town. IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 03-09-2011 12:45 AM
Hehe - nothing dangerous about it, the beeswax is extremely pliable when warmed and my hands are usually cold anyway (cold hands, warm heart?). ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 03-09-2011 03:11 PM
No it is exactly the same. Yours has handle and mine has trace of handle. Yours has the top that mine lost. Then I am missing the top to pull out the light. Mine has also thinned bottom. They are from the same manufacturer - amazing. IP: Logged |
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