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Irishdude unregistered	posted 09-02-2003 02:10 AM [01-1210] Hello to all, I'm a newbie at this silver thing. Will anyone help ID this ladle's maker? Thanks in advance. IP: Logged
WGS Posts: 136 Registered: Oct 99	posted 09-02-2003 11:42 AM definitely silverplate by International Silver Company. I can't read the last digit of the year, but the Mayflower A pattern of 1901 is similar. ------------------ IP: Logged
dragonflywink Posts: 993 Registered: Dec 2002	posted 09-02-2003 11:44 AM Hi Irishdude, Your ladle was made by the American Silver Co. of Bristol, Conn. (1901-35). International purchased the company in 1935. I've only seen silver plate pieces by this maker, not sure they ever did sterling. Cheryl [This message has been edited by dragonflywink (edited 09-02-2003).] IP: Logged
Anuh Posts: 190 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 09-02-2003 09:30 PM A picture of the pattern would be nice, as it would help with identification. I don't believe it is 1901 Mayflower, although both have a beaded edge. In fact, from the shape at the mark, I suspect it is the 1901 Tours pattern. If this were Sterling, it would be so marked, so can be assumed to be plate. The 9 is a standard marking for triple plate of dessert spoons and forks (Rainwater and Redfield) and would also indicate that this is silverplate. Triple plate uses 6 troy oz. of silver per gross of pieces in the plating process and is a very quality grade. ------------------ Anuh IP: Logged
Irishdude unregistered	posted 09-03-2003 04:48 AM Thanks everyone. I believe I can accommodate that request for a image of the pattern: Thanks again! ------------- IP: Logged
dragonflywink Posts: 993 Registered: Dec 2002	posted 09-03-2003 01:21 PM Hi there, Definitely American Silver's "Tours", which Turner shows as a 1904 pattern. Also, I believe the number shown should be a "6" rather than a "9", since the maker's mark is a globe supported by flatware. I find the numbers on silver plate confusing - dessert spoons and forks with a "6" are double plate, but tea spoons are triple plate? Where do ladles and other serving pieces fit in? Cheryl IP: Logged
Anuh Posts: 190 Registered: Jan 2003	posted 09-03-2003 10:16 PM I don't have Turner. What is the title name, Cheryl? I work mostly from Hagen and from matching sites You are right that the number COULD be 6, however, I've seen pieces marked in so many different directions that I tend to read it as it hits my eye - which may be backwards. Thanks for the addition information on the pattern date. I'm not sure anyone knows some of this stuff for sure! ------------------ Anuh IP: Logged
Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 Registered: Apr 2000	posted 09-03-2003 10:34 PM Noel Turner, American Silver Flatware 1837-1910. About $125 new (reprint). I paid $95 for a used first edition. They can be found here and there. It looks like the patent date does say 1904, just with a poorly stamped 4. [This message has been edited by Paul Lemieux (edited 09-03-2003).] IP: Logged
Irishdude unregistered	posted 09-04-2003 10:16 AM Once again, Thanks everyone SO MUCH for your help! You've all been really great. IP: Logged
Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 Registered: Apr 2000	posted 09-04-2003 11:54 AM quote: I'm a newbie at this silver thing. Are you planning on becoming a collector or silver dealer? Or did you just happen to acquire this one piece somehow? IP: Logged

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