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nautilusjv

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nautilusjv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone!

A pretty sugar spoon with goldwashed bowl. It is marked Chas. Bickelman. I could not find anything about him in my reference books or online. Was he the maker or the retailer?

Thanks for your thoughts!

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guess because of the mark is that he was the retailer, and it may be coin silver.

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nautilusjv

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nautilusjv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Vathek!

I was thinking coin as well. And yes, the way the mark is struck seems like a retailer.

Thanks again.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charles Bickelman was a jeweler and watchmaker in Schenectady NY lasting well into the 1940s.

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nautilusjv

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nautilusjv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Wev!

When did his business begin?

Thanks, Kelly

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nautilusjv

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nautilusjv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the September 13, 1893 Jeweler's Circular it states:

"A judgement of $168 has been entered against Charles Bickelman, Schenectady, NY."

I guess he lost a lawsuit, but no further details mentioned.

In the January 26, 1906 proceedings for the Common Council of the city of Schenectady it states:"I, hereby, appoint Charles Bickelman, custodian of clocks for repair and care of the same, from Jan. 1st, 1906 to Jan. 1st, 1908, at an annual salary of $200."


The 1920 census lists his birth year as "about 1858".

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not where I can check my references, but believe that's S.L. & G.H. Rogers Simeon No. 1 silverplate pattern, seem to recall it as introduced right around 1900.

~Cheryl

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nautilusjv

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nautilusjv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Cheryl.

I looked up the pattern and it is indeed Simeon No. 1 introduced in 1907. You are our grand prize winner! Alas, I had hoped it might be coin. It is still a lovely spoon in superb condition.

Thanks again, Kelly

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carl Bickelmann is listed as a seventeen year old German watchmaker on a 31 August 1874 New York passenger list.

I had doubts about the piece being coin silver, so I looked up the pattern in Tere Hagan's book, but I see you have the information already.

[This message has been edited by bascall (edited 11-27-2011).]

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nautilusjv

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2011 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nautilusjv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Bascall, that is another interesting fact about Charles Bickelman. It is fascinating and so appealing to me how this simple plate spoon that I pulled out of a big box of flatware and that was almost black, connects me now to another life and another time. It is one of the things I enjoy most about collecting silver and other antiques- the traces of those who have gone before us.

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