posted 08-09-2007 06:15 PM            

Hello to you all,

A few days ago I just asked about the wrong mentioned subject by myself (silverplate drink model ????????).

I think a lot of members recognized the subject by photo! and perhaps thought new material found in Holland (by personal used title).

No I just didn't knew the right name for it because I've to learn a lot about all silver subjects, it's a very long way to go - that's for sure!!!!!!!!

Tonight I was searching and found many good looking subjects.

The silver/plated drink model is official mentioned as a silver wine goblet.(please correct me if I'm wrong).

I didn't knew that, since I just bought this one the same day and after cleaning it I posted my request for any help or suggestions.(photo's included on the sixth of August).

Like I told before I just also hunting for information (that explain a lot from my side)
and I choose a member name which correspond with the silver hobby at this site.

What I want to know are some things about the silver wine goblets in short universal history if it's possible from some one if it's possible of course?

There are also silver/plated champagne glasses.
The models I found and were mentioned :

• Empire Silver wine Goblet
  
• Wallace Misc Holloware Sterling Wine Goblet
  
• Silverplate Wine Goblet
  
• International Silver Lord Saybrook
  
• Sterling Wine Goblet
  
• Royal Doulton Silver Wedding Wine Glass.

  Hollow Base height between 4 and 5 inches.
  Capacity around 4 OZ.

Are there also bigger sizes,like wineglass models?

I think that the one's I mentioned are all American one's and I don't know in how many countries they produce/d this kind of silver wine goblets.

From which period did they made this kind of silverwine goblets and in which countries, even in Holland?

Can you speak of silverplate therm, if you can't find any mark on the subject I showed

The one I bought is now lightly change (in stead of the silver shine it had after cleaning it) into very light yellow shining?

And I don't know if it's silver/silverplated or with my polishing material, chemical it turned into gold, Ill let you know!!!!!!but what can that be?

posted 08-10-2007 02:50 PM            

I do not know when goblets were first made, but they have been around for many centuries in countries all around the world. Many companies still make them today.

Most goblets are made from glass but some are made of metal, ceramic, wood, and other materials. The reason most are made of glass is that glass does not give any extra flavor to the drink. Most metal cups will give the drink a metal flavor.

posted 08-10-2007 05:08 PM            

Thank you again for all information, I've read it with interest and be helped a lot with it. This afternoon I've visited the local jeweler, it's possible they can check out what kind of material it is. Next week I will try. I don't know but the engraving at both sides interest me, it's done by hand and there is a little difference between both ornaments.

Perhaps it can be a piece which is used at a wedding?
On Norwegian serving spoons (wedding gifts)you can find a kind of ornaments.

I told in beginning, that I collect Norway silverware (most silver work is from Bergen). I've read somewhere at this forum a long conversation about the silver marks from Th.Olsen and M.Aas. Norway families has a tradition to give Norwegian sølv bestikk as wedding gift. Nice tradition!

Information helps a lot from this forum and is a great help. I'm spending a lot of houres to read information about any kind of silver materials.
I will react from this side when I know which material this goblet is made, because I still wondering the changing of color shining.

Kimo I thank you for your reaction and all the best,
Greetings Silverhunter.

posted 08-11-2007 11:26 AM            

Another English term for a stemmed drinking vessel that is sometimes encountered in silver is "flute", a tall thin vessel for champagne. These are not common in metal, as people like to see the bubbles floating up through the glass, but I have seen a few. You could also just call it a stemmed cup. In this case, because of the size, I think it would properly be called a cordial cup, or just a cordial - for drinking an apertif, or perhaps sherry, or vodka or aquavit.

I've had English sterling goblets as early as the late 18th century, and I think that for much of Europe they can potentially go at least that early. American ones I've handled have mostly been mid-19th century or later. The Asian examples I've seen have mostly been very late 19th century or later, and made for the export trade. They are still made today, of course, thus Kimo's position that it could be 100 days or 11 years old.

As to the yellow coloring, I can think of at least two possible explanations. If plated, you might have worn through the silver plating to the point that a yellower base metal is showing through - although that tends to happen in spots rather than uniformly over the whole thing. It also could be tarnish; I've noticed occasionally a light yellowy tarnish develop very quickly, particularly if either tobacco smoke or urban air pollution is present. In that case, it should rub off very easily, even with the bare hand or plain cloth.

posted 08-13-2007 07:55 AM            

(I saw the film made by Al Gore) but that's another story.

When I've found information about the material the goblet is made I will place it on this forum.

Greetings and thank you for spending a lot of time giving your reaction.
Silverhunter.

posted 08-16-2007 11:19 AM            

The yellow shining belongs to brass.
Short notice from this side.

Greetings,
silverhunter.