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fruitspoon

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iconnumber posted 06-20-2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fruitspoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi everyone.

I'm new to this site, and a some questions about some spoons I've had for several years now. I enjoy collecting a little bit of everything. Silver coins, silverware, jewelry, etc. With that said, I have these spoons that look to me like "Fruit" spoons, keep in mind, I'm certainly no expert on spoons. They have a floral motif and have only one mark on the back. It's the letter K inside of a circle. So what I'd like to know, is when they were made? Who made them?

And are they silver, or silver plated, or just junk? Any info. will be greatly appreciated !! Here are some pics, sorry for the quality, it's the best my cam. will do.

I'd really like to find out about these spoons. When they were made and who made them and if their even silver or not?

As always any info. will be greatly appreciated.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 06-21-2012 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is no such thing as junk if you think something is beautiful and worth owning and using. What it is made of becomes irrelevant compared to its grace and style. There are many silver plated objects that I think are far more beautiful and desireable than many of the pure silver objects I have seen. I think that your spoon is very handsome myself. The photo is a little dark but from what I can see it appears to be what most people call either an orange spoon or a grapefruit spoon depending on its size (grapefruit spoons are larger). I can not help you with the maker or exact age but it would be silverplated.

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fruitspoon

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iconnumber posted 06-21-2012 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fruitspoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apologize for the that...I tend to use the word "Junk" to loosely, to often. I myself think the spoons are very nice myself. That is why I purchased them many moons ago. I do appreciate the info. on them as well ! I will continue to check online for the mark. Someone today told me they could be "Kosher"? Haven't heard of that...but I'm checking every lead I get. Thanks again !!

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 06-21-2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This pattern is on page 638 of Davis & Deibel 2nd edition. It is in the section:
    Unknown Trademarks
    Lesser Known Trademarks
    Without Trademarks
No pattern name and only a "K" attribution.

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 06-22-2012 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just curious as to what was meant by kosher - as in not traif or meat/milk? Or the K in a circle which I think is used to show that foods are kosher? If the latter then my guess is that these were made well before the use of the system that uses the K -circle and I think it is only used to show which foods have passed a kosher standard.

Nice spoons to start the day with!

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 06-22-2012 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello & welcome.
I can't help with the mark but the pattern looks like an
orange blossom.

Jersey

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fruitspoon

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iconnumber posted 06-22-2012 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fruitspoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx everyone for the info. As for the "Kosher" I first posted these on ask.com, and someone asked me if they were Kosher spoons for Jewish meals? I'm not Jewish, but I looked up Kosher and actually found a Maker's Mark with a K inside of a circle..but it wasn't exactly like the mark on my spoons. So I'm still not sure who makes them. I also can't find the 2nd edition of Davis & Deibel, online that Scott posted. I'm going to go to the library today and see if I can find it so I can look at page 638. Thanks again everyone for your great input on my lovely spoons !! Hopefully I'll find out who the maker was or when they were made.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 06-22-2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A grapefruit or orange would be simply cut in half and one of the halves would be placed in a bowl for serving. The point on the end of such a spoon was meant for digging out the tender insides of one of the sections of the orange or grapefruit and leaving behind the membranes, and continuing around digging our each section until it was completed. Is your spoon of a size that would better fit grapefruit sized sections, or the smaller orange sized sections? Whichever it is, that would be the kind of spoon it is.

The flower on the handle could be either an orange or a grapefruit blossom - they look very much alike.

I think the K mark is more likely a maker or retailer marking rather than a kosher marking.

[This message has been edited by Kimo (edited 06-22-2012).]

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fruitspoon

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iconnumber posted 06-22-2012 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fruitspoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The spoons are all 5 3/4 in. in length and the bowl's are 2" long and 1" wide and appox. 1/8 in. deep. So to me, they seem to be pretty good size, probably more for a grapefruit than an orange. And the retailer's mark makes a lot of since to me because I've had such a hard time trying to find any info. on it. Ty

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 06-23-2012 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty pattern, but it doesn't look like a citrus blossom to me - with the hooked stems, draping flowers and that heart-shaped leaf, looks like sweet violet. Just a thought, but sets of orange spoons were a common promotional premium, and the design makes me think of some of the early 20th century silverplate patterns produced as premiums - like Wm. Rogers Orange Blossom for the CA Fruit Growers, and the Sunkist pattern, or the Cereta poppy pattern made by Oneida; of course, it also looks like numerous other early 1900s floral patterns.....

Most of the old manufacturer and retailer catalogs I've looked through, seem to call the various forms "orange spoons", with separate grapefruit spoons only offered in few patterns - 'citrus spoons' would seem an appropriate alternative.

1907, Towle Benjamin Franklin, Newbury, and LaFayette:

1909, Gorham Hamilton; 1903, Oneida Avalon orange spoon:

1892, Rogers & Bro.; if I recall correctly, Tiffany produced grapefruit spoons with bowls similar to the third one below:

~Cheryl

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 06-25-2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dragonflywink:
Pretty pattern, but it doesn't look like a citrus blossom to me - with the hooked stems, draping flowers and that heart-shaped leaf, looks like sweet violet.
~Cheryl

Hi Cheryl. Here is a photo of some orange blossoms. I agree that it certainly could be a sweet violet, but I also think it could be an orange blossom to go with it being a citrus spoon. Hard to tell when the maker is doing a representational thing of course, but the number and shape of the petals and the stamen in the center and the likely use of the spoon all lead me to be slow in giving up the possibility it could be an orange blossom. Whatever it is, it is attractive. smile

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 06-26-2012 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings, Kimo.

Suppose it's all in individual perception, but to my eye, the resemblance to an orange blossom is only in its basic five-petaled form. Living most of my life in Central Florida, have seen quite a few orange blossoms and leaves, as well as many other types of citrus - doubt the designer, even taking artistic license, would have used long slender stems with that distinctive hook, the downward-draping buds and heart-shaped leaf, if intending to depict citrus.

Can't recall seeing the pattern before, and not sure there's any indication that orange spoons were the only items produced - but have seen a number of different violet designs in both line patterns and floral series, most with characteristics similar to this one.

~Cheryl


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fruitspoon

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iconnumber posted 06-26-2012 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fruitspoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not trying to but-n here, but of the 3 pics u just posted of the spoons. My spoons have the exact pattern of the center one, so what ever spoon that is, that looks like the spoons I have.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2012 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Fruitspoon - the center spoon picture is yours, was just comparing it to a couple of known Violet patterns.

~Cheryl

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fruitspoon

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2012 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fruitspoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I knew that....I was just testing u. ^^ lolz.

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