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witzhall Posts: 124 |
posted 05-02-2006 10:52 AM
  
[26-1031] As the original thread, Favorite pieces - Part 1 was getting quite long, it seemed like a good idea to start a continuation. I found another piece in my father's "silver drawer" that I find delightful and intriguing. Having never seen one "in the flesh," I am only guessing that it is a fish slice. There's not much to be learned from my references about the makers; I'd be glad to have any information! Thanks . . . IP: Logged |
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rian Posts: 169 |
posted 05-02-2006 12:45 PM
Hello witzhall, What is the length? Could it be a macaroni server? This pattern looks very much like the Bead that Hagan's book says John Polhamus patented in 1850. I can't tell whether the date on your server is 1850 or 1856. Turner seems unwilling to choose a definite place/time for Lincoln and Foss. Dueling sources, I guess. Perhaps, Boston 1850-65. I'm sure someone else will have a more recent reference. IP: Logged |
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witzhall Posts: 124 |
posted 05-02-2006 01:09 PM
Thanks, rian - the piece is 10 1/4" long, and the date is 1856. Somewhere (maybe in the search I did on this site) I read that Lincoln & Foss were generally known as retailers, but as there's no other mark it seems as if they would have been the maker of this piece. Or is that not a logical assumption? IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 05-02-2006 02:00 PM
Albert L. Lincoln was in business in Boston from 1838 - 1857, first in partnership with Gideon Reed as Lincoln & Reed (1838 - 48) and then with Charles M. Foss as Lincoln & Foss (1847 - 58). There is not much more information available in my sources. IP: Logged |
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witzhall Posts: 124 |
posted 05-02-2006 02:18 PM
Thank you, swarter - that's certainly way more information than I had before! IP: Logged |
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sewer-rats Posts: 19 |
posted 05-02-2006 09:37 PM
OK I read part one and I think all those piece will need cleaning soon. Send them on over. I shine them up and send them back....ok some will come back. IP: Logged |
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outwest Posts: 390 |
posted 05-02-2006 11:15 PM
Nice server! I have a few beaded utensil pieces that are exactly like your pattern. So, somebody borrowed from somebody.  Mine are stamped "Bigelow Bros. and Kennard" then 925 in a oval. BB and K were retailers/makers in Boston circa 1860's. I don't know if they retailed or made these pieces. I've always liked the balance of the pieces; they're quite hefty and the handle is broadly oval and somewhat shorter then many other patterns. I think they're attractive. Both yours and mine seem right at the cusp of sterling from coin in America. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 05-03-2006 07:22 AM
The beaded pattern was very popular. This one I believe was made by Wood and Hughes. I do not who is credited with the original design. IP: Logged |
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sewer-rats Posts: 19 |
posted 05-03-2006 09:42 AM
Here is one of my favorite pieces. I got this in a box lot of silk flowers for [very little]. Now should it have a glass insert? If so how would you get one inside it as thee are 3 tiny posts inside the top to keep it from squishing. [IMAGE gone from the internet - vase.jpg] It shined up so pretty too! IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 05-03-2006 10:07 AM
Sewer-rats, I am assuming you are posting this in this thread because you consider this item now a favorite item in your personnel private collection. If this item (or any of your items) is headed towards your sales inventory please save your posts/questions/sharing until after they are sold. IP: Logged |
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sewer-rats Posts: 19 |
posted 05-03-2006 10:23 AM
Consider it now a favorite???? It has been in my collection for about 5 years now. It is my center piece of my silver collection. The thread was for favorite pieces. sorry if this was not the right piece to post. IP: Logged |
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hello Posts: 200 |
posted 05-03-2006 12:24 PM
I am sure just for clarification sake sewer-rats And witzhall, there are quite a few makers (especially 1850-1870) that did not mark their patterns, wendt being the best example I can think of. You can usually attribute by design, or comparison but with a macaroni server might be a little more difficult(b.c. it is rare.) When these pieces then recieve a retailer's mark it becomes especially confusing.Winston [This message has been edited by hello (edited 05-03-2006).] IP: Logged |
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witzhall Posts: 124 |
posted 05-03-2006 02:31 PM
Hi, sewer-rats - welcome to the forum. I like your posts so far; you make me smile ... Please don't be put off by the fact that many people on these forums take their silver pretty seriously, and someone who approaches the subject more lightly is somewhat suspect at first. So please keep your sense of humor!Your piece is pretty, and this is exactly the right place to post it. Are there any marks on it? I look forward to more of your posts hello, does that mean that Lincoln & Foss did no manufacturing themselves? And that the server was made by an anonymous someone for them? [This message has been edited by witzhall (edited 05-03-2006).] IP: Logged |
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hello Posts: 200 |
posted 05-03-2006 02:51 PM
I can't say for sure (maybe someone else can) but many retailers made their own products, as well as retailed other products. Tiffany would be the most well known example of that. The pattern/maker of your piece should be able to be determined (if it isn't Polhemus, I couldn't find any examples online to compare to). The patent means that it should be registered somewhere. All in all it doesn't really matter though, is still a great piece either way! (I like Macaroni servers) IP: Logged |
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witzhall Posts: 124 |
posted 05-03-2006 03:00 PM
I like it, too - thanks. So the JULY 1, 1856 is the patent date? IP: Logged |
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sewer-rats Posts: 19 |
posted 05-03-2006 03:46 PM
Yes is is from Forbes Silver Company. I had tracked down the design patent a while back too. It was designed in 1920's (if I remember right). I would love to put flowers in it but I am not certain what water would do to it. Do you know if it would have had a glass liner before it was all put together? Like I said there is no way to get one in due to those little posts that keep it from squishing. One on either side and one in the middle just below the piercing. Looks like it needs a cleaning too.... Love to clean the stuff! IP: Logged |
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asheland Posts: 935 |
posted 11-18-2015 10:55 AM
Here's a much needed bump! I can't recall if I've shown this here or not... This is one of my MANY favorites: I got it at online auction, and of all places it was in the U.K.! I paid for it in pounds. Glad to have it in my collection. What's even more interesting is while doing online searches in general to see what all is out there, I found it's mate, exact same engraving! Sadly, it sold and was an archive page only. Interesting story though. IP: Logged |
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asheland Posts: 935 |
posted 11-18-2015 11:08 AM
Also interesting to note: I have only been able to account for six of these total. Mine and it's mate being a pair. Two other pair online, six pieces total. I'd safely say they are scarce. Has anybody seen others? IP: Logged |
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t-man-nc Posts: 327 |
posted 11-19-2015 09:11 PM
Wow nice piece... next time you coming down let me know and i will drag out some prettys to look at... Ken IP: Logged |
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asheland Posts: 935 |
posted 11-20-2015 09:35 AM
Ken, I certainly will! It was fun talking silver with you! IP: Logged |
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I would have so happily bought it also to get them back together! It's odd, mine was in the UK, and the other was right here in North Carolina (that big shop in Greensboro) Sad that I found it too late...