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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 08-27-2008 07:36 PM
  
Hello to you all, There is a question from my side about this little candle stick. Is it possible to use the therm flat blaker? The bottom is 9cm wide and looks some to wide in proportion. Into the candle stick only fit a smaller candle stick 1,5 cm wide. Not the usual wide. There is one silver mark? at the inside rand of the bottom, I can't make anything of it so I hope someone is recognize this one, it looks like a shield to me. I'm interested in the age of this little candle stick because it looks rather old to me. At the bottom of the space where the candle must be placed there is a little letter M or W stamped. The other measures are; IP: Logged |
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 08-28-2008 12:25 PM
We would call this a taperstick. A taper is a small candle. Tapersticks were originally part of desk sets, used to melt the wax for sealing letters. I cannot help with the mark. I would have thought this was a relatively late example, perhaps 20th century, but I am no expert in candlestick styles (tapersticks tend to follow the styles of the larger candlesticks). IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 08-28-2008 03:08 PM
Hello Agphile, Thanks a lot from my side, I have learned again a new name and where it has been used for. (formerly). Good to know, it's a great help. About the style I hope it is to place in the period of early 20th century. What I know for sure it wont be used at this side, because we are spoiled with e-mail, but it's faster than seal the envelope and send it to England. From Holland I will say good to get information from your side and I wish you all the best Regards from Andre(w), IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 08-28-2008 04:55 PM
Agphile, I've looked and found some examples considering the taperstick information. Found examples made in England in the period indication of George 2, George 3, Victorian and also saw some looks likes, made in the beginning of the 20th century. Considering the silver mark I now doubt if it is not a soldered place where a handle could be placed like the photo shows? Photo is a example not mine! IP: Logged |
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 08-28-2008 07:50 PM
Hello again Andre If your taperstick were English I would have guessed at a date around 1920/1930 but I don't know enough about styles in continental Europe to suggest a date if it is not English. Tapersticks continued to made when they were no longer essential items, I suppose as decorative pieces for people who still liked to have silver on their desks. The second example you show copies the form of a Chamber Candlestick which was used to light the way upstairs to bed and had its own extinguisher so that you could put the candle out once you were safely tucked into the blankets. If your own taperstick once had a handle soldered on I would have thought this might have left some mark on the surface? But I see why its proportions lead you to suggest this. Anyhow, I think tapersticks are attractive small items and I hope you enjoy having yours. Best wishes David IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 08-29-2008 03:10 AM
Hello David, Thank you for reaction and information again, it was very clear! So a new kind of pattern in the collection. I enjoy my silver plated taperstick that's for sure, continental or from England. Without clear marks it keeps his undiscovered identity, but it has a nice pattern. All the best, andre. IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 08-30-2008 09:03 AM
I don't see anything on the taperstick that would preclude it being, stylistically, late 18th or early 19th century. Northern European classical styles are very sleek and modern looking to our eyes. I'm not guaranteeing that it's that early, just that, from a curatorial point of view, there's nothing about the style that says it must be 20th c. I can't really tell what the construction is, which would be a dead giveaway. Also, were tapersticks still being produced for any logical use by the end of the 1800s? Gummed envelopes were already standard...seems to me tapersticks are inherently earlier. This is no specialty of mine, but just a thought. IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 08-30-2008 05:41 PM
Thank you also Ulysses Dietz for your reaction and I think there are some ???? about this pattern.I try to find the same pattern anywhere (like you said in Northern Europa). Until now I didn't found one. But in the future perhaps I will succeed. You can be right about the gummed envelopes but perhaps people still sealed their gummed envelopes with a extra seal with their initials or family weapon? You're wright considering the sleek pattern it is totally different than others, which I've seen till now. They are much more decorated or with beautiful ornaments. What I wrote before is that the mark? for this silver plated item also can be the rest of soldered material where a handle was connected, but that's a thought of my side. I'm always interested in the back ground information. So I keep on searching! Enjoy the hobby! IP: Logged |
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