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park1226 Posts: 102 Registered: Jun 2005	posted 06-19-2009 04:13 PM [26-1868] I have been a registered user since 2005 and periodically post when I happen on something unusual or interesting. I am assisting a friend who owns this beautiful, simple, elegant salt. It is about 4" tall. The hallmarks are somewhat obscure and appear incomplete. One as entwined initials that look like a "JH". The other has a symbol like a shield or perhaps a turtle shell in the center. There is no 925 or other mark as to silver content. There is a scratched C22 household inventory mark. Neither of us can come up with a maker and would love to have an attribution for this piece of silver. Can someone please help us identify the maker? The photos: IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 06-19-2009 04:39 PM 13=812 silver and we are in germany/austria Hungaria - I have seen the shield before but what town?? I will revert. Year is the 4 numbers in shield 18(top)??(bottom) [This message has been edited by Hose_dk (edited 06-19-2009).] IP: Logged
park1226 Posts: 102 Registered: Jun 2005	posted 06-19-2009 07:48 PM Hose_DK, Thank you for your reply. I found this link to Austro-Hungarian silver that shows the mark you descibed. It is an 18th century mark that is somewhat similar to the one on the salt. Here is the link: Foreign Marks The central shields, however, are different. Unfortunately, the hallmarks appears to be only partially struck on the salt I posted and it is hard to make out. I do see what looks like a 13 (for silver content) on the top. I appreciate your help. Thanks again. IP: Logged
blakstone Posts: 493 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 06-19-2009 08:06 PM The city mark is that of Kaschau [Hungarian: Kassa], then part of the Kingdom of Hungary, now Košice, Slovakia. The date looks like 182?, which is exactly right for the style. The maker “JH” is Johann Nepomuk Hanff. A native of Pest (now Budapest), he had been apprenticed to Mathias Rombauer (1775-1840) of Eperies (now Prešov, Slovakia) for over two years by March of 1810. He became a master in Kaschau on 30 Nov 1812. He served as deputy warden in 1816 and 1819, and as guild warden in 1819, 1821, 1823, 1828-1830 and finally from 1833 until his death in 1839. His was a large and successful workshop, with at least four apprentices/journeymen. Hope this helps! IP: Logged
park1226 Posts: 102 Registered: Jun 2005	posted 06-19-2009 09:01 PM Blackstone, Thank you for your reply. It certainly did help! The depth and breadth of your scholarship is amazing. Since the mark on the salt is somewhat obscure I would like to view a published example of the mark. Would you please refer me to a specific reference? Thanks! IP: Logged
blakstone Posts: 493 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 06-19-2009 10:50 PM Probably the most accessible reference is Tardy's International Hallmarks on Silver, p. 63. Here's an example from 1827: However, the marks in Tardy are clearly taken from: Elemér Köszeghy, Magyarországi ötvösjegyek a középkortól 1867 (Budapest: Királyi magyar egyetemi nyomda, 1936) Which is the standard reference for Hungarian marks before 1867. I also consulted: Istvan Heller, Ungarische und siebenbürgische Goldschmiedearbeiten (Munich: Hirmer, 2000) Eva Toranova, Goldschmiedekunst in der Slowakei (Hanau: Werner Dausien, 1982) Which are both good references for Slovak marks & makers. Thanks for the kind words and for sharing this lovely piece! IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 06-21-2009 01:36 AM so before I could return to my books you had the town and everything. IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-22-2009 02:53 AM Blakstone is a silvermaster IP: Logged

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