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dafff

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dafff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

After reading again the forum guidelines I'm doubting if it was wise of me to post a topic (christofle pattern)on this forum. At this moment I'm working as a interiour designer but I have become more and more interested in antiques for the last three years and slightly I'm bying more and more objects on markets and auctions. But because of the economic depression (not much work) I was also selling interiour objects (mostly lightning)to clients and sometimes on the internet. So for me this is a sideline to switch to if I don't have enough work in my regular profession. I'm hungry for learning about antiques for a hobby and like to have it in my house but I also like to try to sell objects to see if it might possible for me to do it for a living. So I have double feelings about my post about the christofle flatware set because it might be an object for me te sell. Should I have mentioned it in my post or was it an "illegal" post then? If so... my apologies for that. But I was thinking that probably a lot of the members are involved in silver in a professional way so what exactly is the line in an ethical way. I don't want to act here like I'm only a hobbyist who has enough money to buy silver just for collecting. Right now I'm buying objects to learn from and the things I really like I keep them for a time but I have to sell sometimes to be able to buy new treasures and learn more. In all the books I have about antiques and also the people I asked for advise said to me: "learn by touching, looking, asking but also buying and selling! at the markets, antiqueshops and auctions". Sorry for this unclear post but this was keeping my mind busy and I liked to share these thoughts to hear your reactions.

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are not anti-dealer - we have dealer/collector members. We simply require that no objects purchased solely for immediate resale be put up for help in identification. If you buy something for yourself that you need help with, we are happy to oblige. If you should decide after a period of several months or a year or more that you no longer wish to keep it, and put it up for sale, then there has been "no harm, no foul." Please understand that it is not our purpose to provide a service solely for the commercial profit of others. If you feel you can meet these criteria, you are welcome here, andwe will be happy to share our knowledge and help you learn.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 02-08-2010 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Designers I have known frequently advertized by constantly re-decorating their own places. The idea was to put together a complete room, get some publicity for the room, and then sell off the contents and start anew. I do not have a problem with this approach.

Nor with your question. I feel that the ones we are most concerned with are the online auction dealers who put up our postings as descriptions. That's not why we are here. But to assist new dealers in developing their appreciation, that does not bother me at all.

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iconnumber posted 02-10-2010 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appreciate your honest and frank posting. I think the line between being a fair posting and one that is not has to do with a person's intent - are they looking for free research to help sell an object or increase the amount they get for it - or do they intend to keep it for the foreseeable future and really want to learn more about it for their own intellectual enrichment rather than the enrichment of their wallet. Of course people sometimes sell off things they no longer enjoy or when they are raising cash to buy another piece of silver they would rather have in their collection, but it is not done in a way that takes unfair advantange of the kind help people here offer at no cost.

Yes, there are some dealers here but they play by these rules. At the same time I think there are even more non-dealers here who also play by these rules. We have working and retired silversmiths, museum curators, academics, casual collectors, advanced collectors, and more.

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