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DineyPal

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2011 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DineyPal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I am new here and my husband and I collect old cigarette cases and especially like it when we get a silver or sterling silver one. We recently bought one and were dismayed to discover that sterling was spelled "streling". It is a beautiful case with a scrolled floral raised type design on the outside and inside is labeled thusly"

    Streling
    Silver 950
It measures 6 and 1/4 by 3 and 1/2.

We have a similarly designed smaller one which is merely labeled sterling 950.

The questionable case seems to have the weight and appearance of silver, but we wonder if some labels were phony as I read in your forum about hallmarks being "altered." Perhaps we have a "Rare" mis-mark which is truly more valuable instead of having been taken as fools. I hope it is the former as opposed to the latter.

Any info on this would be appreciated.

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Hose_dk

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2011 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hose_dk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the forum.

Please read the text about photos etc. And forum guidelines.

I am sure that you will benefit much from the knowledge here - in your collecting.

A photo might tell whether it is a mistake or if someone is making fake.

950 - that is not sterling, but that grade of silver is used in a few countries.

But start with a photo.

I read your post again - you write label. Do you mean label? or hallmark. In case label - I can guarantee that it is not silver. (95% sure)

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DineyPal

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2011 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DineyPal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi.

Thank you for your information.

Unfortunately my digital camera is not good enough for me to get a good picture at this time.

It is engraved Streling...(no...not a label.) In the antique store we did not catch the mis-spell until we got home. I would never trust the info on a paper label.

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Postnikov

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2011 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Postnikov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it is a typo...

Here the different silver alloys:

Fine Silver

Investment grade, or fine, silver is 99.9 percent (.999) pure or better. The Silver Maples produced by the Royal Canadian Mint are 99.99 percent (.9999) pure silver. But pure silver has some qualities that can be undesirable in particular applications. It is soft and bendable, and oxidizes easily producing a tarnish. Jewelry makers and other users of silver often mix silver with other metal to make it more suitable for their purposes. Silver of between 92.5 percent purity and fine is called sterling silver.

Sterling Silver

The standard content of sterling silver is 92.5 percent (.925) silver and 7.5 percent copper. The presence of the copper increases the hardness of the alloy, making it less likely to bend. It also slows down the rate of oxidation so silver jewelry and flatware doesn't tarnish as quickly as fine silver. Sterling silver is usually identified with a marking of "925" or "ster" on the bottom or rear of a sterling silver piece.

Other Alloys

A different alloy of sterling silver, called argentium, is also created with 92.5 percent silver. Argentium, however, replaces a small amount of the copper with a metal called germanium. This special alloy is useful in applications that have exposure to high temperature since it reduces the firescale that forms in normal sterling silver. It also has even higher tarnish resistance than ordinary sterling silver.

950 Silver

Silver of 95 percent purity is relatively rare because it is a nonstandard alloy. Technically it is not fine silver because it falls considerably below 99.9 percent fineness. This means it is sterling silver, but more pure than most sterling silver. 950 silver will be softer than most sterling silver and will tarnish more easily. This means it is unlikely to be used in most industrial applications. Most 950 silver is used for jewelry.

Other Alloys

In 2007 a U.S. patent issued for an alloy of sterling silver with "enhanced tarnish resistance" and "exceptional" hardness. Like most sterling silver, this alloy contains 92.5 percent silver. But it only has about 5.25 percent copper. The remainder is made of zinc, tin, lithium, silicon, germanium and boron. Sterling silver of 92.5 percent purity is also alloyed with platinum in some artistic settings to modify appearance, make it harder and increase tarnish resistance.

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Postnikov

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2011 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello and welcome ~

Without pictures, it's impossible to be sure, but from your description, your item is most likely mid-20th century Japanese silver of .950 fineness (they're commonly marked as you describe). The "Streling" would be nothing more than an error in spelling on an item intended for the American market from a country whose language is not English (can't say that I'd see any rarity or extra value in the mistake).

~Cheryl

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Hose_dk

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2011 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hose_dk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bad pictures are better than no pictures.

also bad pictures are also a way for you to learn how to add pictures here - which is one of the reasons that there is a "New members post here"

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree with Cheryl. "Streling" is a simple misspelling that does not alter the value at all one way or the other (in fact it is a misnomer altogether since it is .950-grade silver rather than .925, the latter being sterling silver).

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DineyPal

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iconnumber posted 04-18-2011 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DineyPal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for the info on silver and the different degrees of purity, etc. Our primary collection of cases were of the lower end and not many were of precious metals, but now we are able to branch out a little more and this particular case with the oddly spelled "sterling" made us very wary because no one wants to feel they have been duped. This forum seems to have many nice and helpful members and I appreciate all your help.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 04-19-2011 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without clear photos any information we provide should be taken with a very large grain of salt. There are so many markings and variations, and seeing the object itself is normally a more reliable indicator of what the markings may or may not mean. markings are very easy to add, all you need is a stamp and small hammer and with one light whack you now have a marked object. Rub in a bit of soot and it looks old.

If your camera is not working, you might want to either buy one (they are no longer expensive) or borrow one from a family member or friend.

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