A link to me handforging a silver spoon

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Hand-forger Posts: 28 Registered: Jul 2010	posted 07-19-2011 05:04 PM [26-2180] Handforged Flatware spoon Sterling Silver Above is a video of me hand forging a Sterling Silver Spoon ------------------ IP: Logged
adelapt Posts: 418 Registered: May 2003	posted 07-19-2011 11:15 PM Thanks a lot Hand-forger. It's great to see the skill involved, and that such things can still be made. IP: Logged
jersey Posts: 1203 Registered: Feb 2005	posted 07-20-2011 08:00 AM Hi David! Loved it! Jersey IP: Logged
silberpunze Posts: 101 Registered: Nov 2009	posted 07-20-2011 10:32 AM very nice for me it's very interesting to learn how goldsmiths who worked over 200 years ago here is a link to the old Nürnberg Housebook There you can see the goldsmiths with their equipment IP: Logged
jag Posts: 24 Registered: Jun 2011	posted 07-20-2011 04:59 PM Very similar to blacksmithing iron (which I've tried). Why did you quench it in water the last time, but not the times before? And when and how do you put the bowl into the spoon (this wasn't shown in the video)? [This message has been edited by jag (edited 07-20-2011).] IP: Logged
Hand-forger Posts: 28 Registered: Jul 2010	posted 07-20-2011 05:15 PM quote: Originally posted by jag: Very similar to blacksmithing iron (which I've tried). Why did you quench it in water the last time, but not the times before? And when and how do you put the bowl into the spoon (this wasn't shown in the video)? [This message has been edited by jag (edited 07-20-2011).] Hi Thanks everyone for your comments @jag I quenched it so I could work it cold the final stage is done cold for more control the bowl is formed after the bowl has been scaled filed to shape It is then bowled under drop stamp I will post a video when I am next bowling or up load some pictures David [This message has been edited by Hand-forger (edited 07-20-2011).] IP: Logged
FredZ Posts: 1070 Registered: Jun 99	posted 07-20-2011 08:51 PM David, It is great to see the hot forged method of spoon making. Thanks, Fred IP: Logged
jersey Posts: 1203 Registered: Feb 2005	posted 07-20-2011 10:45 PM Hello again David, Do you make hollowware as well? Thank you for your time. Jersey IP: Logged
middletom Posts: 467 Registered: May 2004	posted 07-21-2011 03:03 PM David, That is a very interesting video. Your techniques differ a good bit from ours as do your tools. It certainly is handy to have your annealing torch so close to the anvil. If I might ask, why do you hit the anvil directly so often while hammering? Is it habit or does it serve a purpose? If I did that, my anvil top would be peppered with small dents. middletom from ONC IP: Logged
Hand-forger Posts: 28 Registered: Jul 2010	posted 07-21-2011 04:24 PM quote: Originally posted by jersey: Hello again David, Do you make hollowware as well? Thank you for your time. Jersey Hi Jersey I dont do hollowware just flatware jewellery and smallwork Kind Regards IP: Logged
Hand-forger Posts: 28 Registered: Jul 2010	posted 07-21-2011 04:47 PM quote: Originally posted by middletom: David, That is a very interesting video. Your techniques differ a good bit from ours as do your tools. It certainly is handy to have your annealing torch so close to the anvil. If I might ask, why do you hit the anvil directly so often while hammering? Is it habit or does it serve a purpose? If I did that, my anvil top would be peppered with small dents. middletom from ONC Hi thats quite intresting that you say the methods differ, I knew you worked cold over the pond I have been working this way for 20 years and colin who taught me had done it this way for 55 years so its all I know. The hammer is bounced on the anvil and its very bouncy it keeps the energy in the hammer blow you just transfer it across to the work you dont have to stop the hammer dead it also aids turning the hammer to the peal or face i.e change to peal bounce spin the hammer in your hand grab and back down on to the work when you look at the work the hammer is left to bounce. The face of the anvil is hardend so it dont mark I was taught to do it this way and my first mths in the job where all about the bounce lol The torch so close is my own addition like you said just handy how are you finding work with the price of silver been so high Kind Regards David IP: Logged
agleopar Posts: 850 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 07-22-2011 12:36 PM David, many thanks - it is such a pleasure to see "proper spoon forging - HOT!" I am especially happy that Middle Tom now can see how it works... He is very fast like you and because he starts with a much thinner blank it probably ends up the same. None the less I would love to see a race between UK and US spoon forgers and we better do it soon as there are not many left either side of the pond! If you ever get over I would be happy to be the referee. The one question I had was when you heat the blank you go to a bright cherry. I was told not to start hammering until some of the red had cooled or you'd risk cracking the ingot. I assume your using sterling or britainnia. My method was to heat up a few steps away from my tease (not sure of the spelling, teste?) block and by the time I start hammering it is not so hot but still like putty. I have never had a problem with cracking even when I cast my own ingots. IP: Logged
middletom Posts: 467 Registered: May 2004	posted 07-22-2011 03:50 PM David, Your anvil appears to be all steel which would, I think, account for its hardness. Ours are cast iron with a steel cap and that cap probably is not as hard as your anvil. Our sales have actually picked up lately. The silver price does not seem to affect the people who are our customers. As to Agleopar and his illusion that hot hammering is the correct way, what can I say other than I would have to anneal a spoon the size you are hammering in the video only three times, that is it would be forged in three stages. Reynolds Senior, who was the son of the founder of ONC, had told me that in the nineteen thirties, he had gone to California to work with his uncle, Porter Blanchard. Porter had decided to forge his flatware hot (that was not the way he was taught to do it) and Reynolds said he could not see any advantage to doing it that way.But, Porter was a nudist and Reynolds could not see any advantage in hammering that way, either. I hope you continue to have much work to do and the years to do it. middletom IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 07-22-2011 08:05 PM I'm very much enjoying enjoying eavesdropping on the smith tech talk. I was especially fascinated by the explanation of the "bounce." I wondered about that myself when I watched the video. Isn't it dangerous to handle hot metal in the nude? IP: Logged
dragonflywink Posts: 993 Registered: Dec 2002	posted 07-24-2011 12:20 PM Fascinating video, hard to get me to sit spellbound for 12 minutes..... Middletom - have also enjoyed the series of pictures you've been posting - and want to thank you for the mental image of a nekkid Porter Blanchard at the anvil (hopefully wearing an apron or loincloth or something!). ~Cheryl IP: Logged
middletom Posts: 467 Registered: May 2004	posted 07-24-2011 06:02 PM Cheryl, Yes, Porter did wear a short leather apron, but Reynolds said that often women coming in to see the shop were quite surprised at seeing him hammering with just the apron on. middletom IP: Logged

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