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jag Posts: 24 |
posted 04-19-2013 02:44 PM
  
I have a coin silver creamer/sugar with the mark of J&L Coy. I found an L Coy (1823-1900 Vermont) in wev's database, but without a sample hallmark. I couldn't find a J Coy. The Asian influence in the design begs the following questions.
2. Isn't it unusual to find Asian design influence in coin silver, which didn't show up until the 1860's and therefore in the time that the Sterling standard was being started? 3. If it is the L Coy from Vermont, wouldn't it be even stranger for the Asian influence to show up in the work of a rural Vermont maker, far from the cities? Any thoughts appreciated. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 04-19-2013 04:20 PM
I think that should be J and I Cox from New York. IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 04-19-2013 04:24 PM
I don't know anything about Coy or Cox (I also read it as Cox), but so called 'coin' silver never stopped being made and it is still available today. Basically all it means is silver at a lower purity than 92.5 percent, and typically somewhere around 90 percent purity though it could be lower. There are no silver standards in the U.S. other than you are not allowed to mark one purity when your object is some other purity. Most manufacturers went to Sterling and marked their products accordingly since that is what most of the buyers wanted and silver was plentiful after the big finds in the west around the 1870s, but a manufacturer could save money and get more profit by making things out of lower quality silver. Asian influenced design has been around for a very long time and it keeps coming back every so often. One of the bigger eras for it was in the 1860s, and another was in the late 1800s/early 1900s, and another was during the 1930s for some examples. [This message has been edited by Kimo (edited 04-19-2013).] IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 04-19-2013 05:10 PM
There were two waves of Asian-influenced design in 19th century American silver: Japanese-influenced design during the Aesthetic period in the 1870s-80s and Chinoiserie, which showed up in the 18th century and came back into fashion in the second quarter of the 19th century when neoclassicism began giving way to a Rococo revival. It would help to see a photo of your creamer in its entirety, but I would guess that it's evoking China rather than Japan and is from the mid-19th-century Rococo revival. IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 04-19-2013 06:27 PM
John and James Cox worked in New York from 1815 - 1853. IP: Logged |
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jag Posts: 24 |
posted 04-20-2013 11:18 PM
Ah, J&I Cox, that makes sense. I am so used to using wev's database that I didn't even think to look in the only hallmark book I have (Thorn 1949) - but there it is. And Chinese influence makes perfect sense - for some reason I was thinking Japanese. From the style of the creamer (three legs), this would seem to be on the early end of Cox's work? Or does the surprising amount of decoration make it later? IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 04-20-2013 11:32 PM
Yeah, definitely Rococo Revival Chinoiserie. See the Rococo shell under the spout? That would put it in the later end of the Cox partnership. Your creamer has a lot of charm. I like the palm tree shading the pagoda. IP: Logged |
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