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KerryS

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iconnumber posted 07-18-2017 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KerryS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! I am doing some research for a museum and found a serving set (fork and spoon) with a portrait bust and name of Michael de Ruiter. A note with them suggests they are Dutch, from the turn of the 20th century, but I can't find anything else like them. The marks are an N in a shield; ER in monogram with N and S at sides; pineapple or strawberry made of incised dots. Has anyone seen anything like them, or can help me place the marks?
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Thanks! (First post, so I hope these links work properly.)

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 07-18-2017 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michiel Adriaenszoon de Ruyter was a Dutch admiral. He is the most famous and one of the most skilled admirals in history, most famous for his role in the Anglo-Dutch Wars of the 17th century. (Wikipedia)

Born: March 24, 1607, Flushing, Netherlands

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Stylistically the spoon and fork look typical of Dutch "historicist" pieces from c. 1900. They could be a good few years earlier or later than that because the style is a traditional one that may even be produced to this day.

I am no expert on Dutch marks. To contact experts on Dutch marks it might be worth your while to try the 925-1000 Dutch silver forum.

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iconnumber posted 07-18-2017 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is also a movie Admiral

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 07-19-2017 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rather than Dutch these appear to be Hanau, Germany pseudo hallmarks.
Probably Neresheimer.& Sohne.

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Paul Lemieux

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Richard is correct--Neresheimer & Sohne. They are one of the more well known of the Hanau makers producing antique-style pieces and using antique-style "fantasy" marks. These are probably c. 1900.

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This Hanau company was founded in 1893 so that puts a limit on how old they could be, but 1900 or 1910 or 1920 or such are also possible and I think more likely than 1890s. The Hanau companies were making silver to look like old silver and using pseudo-hallmarks to make people think they were very old as well. Typically Hanau silver is between 75 percent and 85 percent silver. By comparison, sterling is 92.5 percent silver.

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iconnumber posted 08-02-2017 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KerryS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All great information, thanks, everybody.

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