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JML

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iconnumber posted 09-25-2017 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JML     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question regarding tea set, likely from the 1800s. It only has "1799" and the piece number such as 2-6 stamped on the bottom of each piece with no manufacturer. In researching "1799, it is a Reed and Barton pattern which is identical in basic structure to these pieces, but the Reed and Barton name is nowhere to be found. The pieces are heavily chased with leaves and grapes. Could another maker have bought the base pattern from R&B and added the chasing? Wonder wouldn't they have imprinted their name? Thanks for any insight!


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JML

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iconnumber posted 09-25-2017 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JML     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apologies for not posting more info on myself. I have collected silver items over the years for personal use and enjoyment, I like researching the history of items that I have and two have puzzled me--this tea set and a teapot that was purchased in Great Britain which I placed in a separate post. I just found this forum and am hoping someone more knowledgeable might be able to help me with these pieces. Thank you so much!

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iconnumber posted 09-26-2017 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not a Reed & Barton expert and hopefully someone who is will respond, but my initial thought is that since this is silver plated and not silver many makers tended to be a bit less vigilant in marking such wares. Also, sometimes retailers such as department stores and jewelry stores and the like sometimes ordered things without makers marks with the expectation that they would apply their own name markings. It is possible that this is the case with this tea set and the retail store ordering it did not get around to marking it with their name. It is hard to say. I do not know the dates of manufacture of their pattern 1799 but mid to late 1800s is one possibility, but so is early to mid 1900s. Once a company creates a pattern it tends to stay in production for as long as they can sell it. For example, their silver plate hollowware pattern 1795 was started in 1850 and did not end until 1985. Whenever you clean this you should not use a dip as that would remove the beautiful patina, and you should only use a gentle, non-abrasive paste polish with an extra soft 100 percent cotton cloth. Anything rougher would remove silver plating and over time it can wear through to the base metal beneath.

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iconnumber posted 09-26-2017 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did they use a special gravity-defying alloy? ;-)

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iconnumber posted 09-26-2017 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the Forum.

You have a nice tea set and with multiple pots can serve different types of tea. The tall one in the middle looks like it has a place for a burner. If you do use a burner I would be extremely careful and not leave the pot unattended. I have a pot with a similar burner and have never been able to control it adequately. As a result I have used it initially just to warm the pot, but turn it off as soon as the pot is warm.

I should add that an internet search with the number 1799 and Reed and Barton turns up similar tea pots.

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JML

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2017 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JML     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the help!

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 09-28-2017 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot see the details of all of the parts of this set, but in general when a "tea set" has more than one pot it is not for tea. A full serving set would typically have three pots - one for tea, one for coffee and one for hot chocolate. Tea pots are generally the more rounded ones and either the second or third largest, Coffee pots tend to be taller than tea pots and hold a bit more liquid, and chocolate pots then to be tall and narrow designs - often with the spout higher up on the pot. Of course every maker would be liberal with these generalities, and one does not always see all three types of pots in a given service.

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