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ranger1202

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iconnumber posted 08-20-2018 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ranger1202     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying to find some info on Harris and Shafer Co. Specifically on this platter/tray. The brand doesn't appear to be very common and I cant find any information about them on the internet. Any help dating this would be appreciated.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 08-20-2018 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice repousse design (you're gonna polish it, right?) - made by Baltimore based A.G. Schultz, Harris & Shafer was a Washington, D.C. based retailer...

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 08-21-2018 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, a nice polish would make your A.G. Schultz tray really dominate the room, but please be careful in how you polish it as a bad polish can produce the exact opposite effect. Whatever you do, do NOT use a dip type polish, or a polish that is as thin as water. That will remove the tarnish from the little nooks and crannies and make your tray look like it was made yesterday and not like the vintage tray it is. You want to have that blackening in the nooks and crannies as that is the patina that makes old silver so lovely. And do not let anyone use a buffing machine or any other kind of powered polishing or buffing type contraption on it as that will also be very bad for it. Get some nice high quality polishing paste and some 100 percent cotton rags that have been washed many times so they are really soft and have no sizing or such left in them. Non cotton rags can wind up scratching the surface which is not good. Take your time and polish it lovingly and it will be really beautiful.

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 08-21-2018 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That tray is sweet! Kimo is right, definitely use a hand polish! I use Wright's silver cream and an old T-shirt, that works well for me.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 08-21-2018 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice tray. The handmade mark is one of the best in my opinion.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 08-21-2018 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be easier on us if you wouldn't use Picturetrail.

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ranger1202

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iconnumber posted 08-22-2018 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ranger1202     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all of the help. Yes, it's definitely getting a polish. (will post another pic once it's done) Any info on how to date A.G. schultz?

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 08-22-2018 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are listed as working between 1899-1950, If I had to guess, I'd date that tray from 1900-10.

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Scott Martin
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quote:
Originally posted by Scott Martin:
It would be easier on us if you wouldn't use Picturetrail.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2018 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The style appears to be early 1900s, but that is not necessarily a defining aspect since once a style is introduced companies tend to keep on making it long afterwards. One way to put some kind of outside markers on when this was made is to start with the dates that A.G. Schultz was in business and as Ashland has already said that would be 1899 to 1950. Then one can narrow that down a bit by knowing that the retail company of Harris and Shafer was in business in Washington, D.C. from 1880-1938 leaving the date range of 1899 to 1938 that this could have been made. Since the style on this is something one might tend to see in the first decade or two of the 1900s one can say that it is more likely than not that it would have been made sometime between 1900 and 1920, but that it is not possible to be positive with this dating and that it could be anytime up until 1938, though not likely as art deco was all the rage for most but not all buyers in the late 1920s to 1930s. I might simply say that it is likely to be sometime around 1905 to 1910 but that is only a thoughtful guess.

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