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trefid2

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iconnumber posted 11-21-2018 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trefid2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had to have this when I saw it. It's a very tactile hand made 4 1/2" caddy spoon, hallmarked for London 1914, weighing 24 grams. My first thought is a night or design school project. It has a long planished bowl and engraved handle. I haven't been able to determine the maker, the punch is hard to decipher and appears to possibly be in the gothic lettering style but I honestly don't know. Out of curiosity, if a piece is British hallmarked, is the sponsors maker required to be registered?





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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 11-24-2018 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that it is a charming little spoon. I also get the impression it that it is likely a student's effort given the relatively minimal amount of smithing and especially given the rather crudely executed engraving.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 11-24-2018 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps an alternative use was a shoe horn ... confused eek biggrin

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2018 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I understand your question the company or person responsible for sending a silver article for hallmarking must be registered with the assay office. I think this has been a requirement since the 14th century.
I do not know what the requirements are to obtain registration.
Attractive and also interesting tea caddy spoon. The design seems to mimic a cross. Are the initials for the sponsor RC?

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2018 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like it, too. Cool find!

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trefid2

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2018 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trefid2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahwt, it's difficult to determine the initials. The first letter could be an R, H or a gothic style letter. The second one is possibly a C or an E or again a gothic style letter. To date a mystery maker. Even the sponsors/makers punch looks like a night school project. With all that said, I think it's a quirky and honest piece. I believe somebody put their best effort into making it.

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doc

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Your mark looks like RC, and I was able to find a similar mark on the UK Assay Office's website for Robert Candelent, who registered his mark in 1911 and whose mark shown on the site was found on a caddy spoon.

Robert Candelent
1912 (registered Apr 1911)
Caddy spoon

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trefid2

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2018 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trefid2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a good find doc. I can't locate other pieces by this maker on the internet which again suggests to me a hobbyist. This idea I think is supported by the overall feel/look of the piece. Interesting that the piece identified on the site you mentioned was a caddy spoon.

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PhilO

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I am flattered that my web site has been mistaken for an official Assay Office web site but I must point out that it is a private effort with no official connection or standing.

Candelent was actually a jeweller and silversmith of some long standing having started in business as a jeweller (and registering his first mark) in 1872. By 1914 Robert Candelent had, we presume, retired and the company was under the ownership of his son Ernest Joseph Candelent (born 1871). We have no way of knowing exactly who made this delightful caddy spoon but Candelent and Co may well have their mark on it as sponsors and not makers.

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ahwt

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Current requirements for registering your mark seem to just require the payment of a registration fee.
For some reason I thought that one would have to take a test in making silver.

And Phil thanks for such a great website.

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trefid2

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Indeed a great website PhilO. Thanks for the addition info on the Candelent connection. Perhaps it was another family member's introduction to the world of silversmiths.

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doc

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Phil-sorry to misrepresent your site, but kudos to you and thank you for the efforts!

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