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SquirrelNest1

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iconnumber posted 06-17-2019 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SquirrelNest1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello. I have long had an interest in old Southern silver, as I inherited a nice collection. I enjoy adding to it, and have really branched out into odd Victorian Serving pieces.

I recently purchased some pieces of Albert Coles ‘Medallion’ pattern - at least, I thought I did. After receiving the pieces, I was a little dismayed to see how thoroughly they had been machine buffed. The maker’s mark is nearly obscured, but in theory, it does match Coles’ in shape.

The warrior is also a different man than Coles’ traditional Medallion warrior, and je facing to the left rather than the right. The other markings on the flatware match Coles very very closely, if not exactly.

Has anyone seen this variant of Medallion? Or is this a totally different medallion pattern but a different maker?

Thanks so much!

Am working on uploading pictures to the Gallery.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 06-18-2019 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am guessing but Ivanhoe may be the name as your pattern. These pictures are from D. Albert Soeffing’s book “Silver Medallion Flatware”. This book is a great one to have if you are interested in Medallion flatware.
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asheland

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iconnumber posted 06-18-2019 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the forum!

Sadly, people machine buff pieces. I personally would send it back, that would kill it for me...

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SquirrelNest1

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iconnumber posted 06-18-2019 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SquirrelNest1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is exactly it, awht! Thank you so much.

I have been waiting for my daughter to resize my photos and send them back. I can’t figure it out. I must be too old LOL

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 06-18-2019 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FastStone Photo Resizer

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FastStone Photo Resizer is an image converter and renaming tool that intends to enable users to convert, rename, resize, crop, rotate, change color depth, add text and watermarks to images in a quick and easy batch mode. Drag and Drop mouse operation is well supported.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 06-19-2019 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I loaded the pictures of Albert Coles flatware by using my IPad’s camera. If you log on to Scott’s photo gallery with an IPad and click on upload an icon appears after you hit the Choose file box that says “take photo or video”. If you choose that method of uploading a file the sizing appears to be automatic.
I imagine this works with all brands of phones and other devices that have a built in camera.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 06-19-2019 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good advice from ahwt.

The only thing to remember when uploading is the Maximum allowed file size uploaded is 1.00 MB.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 06-21-2019 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not an expert on this pattern, but it was not entirely uncommon for other makers to note when a particular pattern was popular seller by one maker to copy closely but not exactly that pattern and market it themselves. They would avoid lawsuits by showing that there were some minor differences and so they were not making exact copies. This is something to always keep in the back of you mind as one possibility to consider when you see very similar but not exactly the same details in silverware. I am not saying this is the case with your flatware, but I am not enough of an expert in it to say it is one way or the other.

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