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iconnumber posted 12-04-2021 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruchgedanke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone, I appreciate your time.
I need a little bit help on this:
Does anybody now more about the silversmith; year and story about this item?
Could be a soap, or tabacco box from Japan. Maybe Meiji period.
On the top of the box you can rarely see a human face. On the back of the box there are two smybols. the first stands for silver. But underneath I dont know.
Do you can help? What are your thought in general, and in detail relating to the symbols?
thanks Bruchgedanke

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iconnumber posted 12-04-2021 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi and welcome to the forums. Please introduce yourself and share the nature of your interest in silver. Also, please be sure to read the forum guidelines. We are a friendly group operating under a set of guidelines to ensure we maintain civility and are respectful of each others expertise.
Great photos by the way.

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iconnumber posted 12-04-2021 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruchgedanke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, thank you.
A few years back I bought this one from a second hand shop. At this time I only was looking for a silver soap box. then I found this item and bought it. The former seller told me that this item must be a soap box from Japan Meiji period.
Now, years later I asked an Asia expert in a museum of Asia culture. The person told me that this shouldn't be a soap box. It should be a tabacco box from like 1930.
But I am confused.
I want to now the real history of this item.


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iconnumber posted 12-04-2021 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruchgedanke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to be conintued:
the Asia expert couldn't tell me more, because he/she also couldn't give more details.
What is the face on the upper box? What is the second sign on the bottom of the box?

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iconnumber posted 01-24-2022 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not an expert on Japanese silver, but I can say that you are correct about the one marking meaning "Pure Silver". As for age, my thought is that it would be pre-1928 which is when Japanese silver was supposed to be marked with numerical purity rather than just kanji. The style of this box is not typical of other Meiji era silver I have seen which tends to be more elaborate and artistic so my guess is that it could be early post-Meiji. As for what it was used for, my guess is that it was for whatever the owner wanted to put into it. This is typical with generic small boxes. It could be tobacco, or possibly small candies, or incense, or spices, or ???? I do not read kanji, but if someone can read the two on the side with the engraving perhaps that will give a clue as to how the maker expected it to be used.

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