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salome1

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello all.

I have been trying to identify this hallmark for weeks but so far no luck. I am hoping to sell it but first need to know the hallmark, date and possibly origin.

It is hand engraved and left handed. The hall mark is thus: a large letter 'R' followed by what looks like a star or sun symbol, the letters; 'E' (or F?), R, N, S, and then either a letter c or a small crescent moon symbol.

The deisng on the front seems typically 19th century but i would really like to know for sure. The case also still retains what i imagine is the original elastic inside the case.

Many thanks in advance!! I hope someone can help.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suggest you go back and read the large green banners that appear at the top of nearly every page; pay especial attention to the line:

*** NO pre-sales/auction research or valuation questions. ***

You will find all you need to know about proper posting in the Guidelines

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salome1

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if I hadn't mentioned the fact that i am considering selling it would my post still contravene your rules? I only want to know if anyone knows the hallmark!!?

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On its face, no, in which case I would have suggested you read the post immediately above yours in the list.

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salome1

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I happen to think you are being quite rude to me as a first time user and i want to cancel my membership immediately.

I did, in fact, read your banners and warning notices. But quite frankly, what is the point of having forum on 'silver' if you can't ask for any damned advice on a hallmark. What a load of petty, bureaucratic rubbish.

Tell me.. the purpose of this " The premier site for discussing Silver" is??

Thanks for nothing.

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may have read them, but you made no effort to heed them.

This is a place to discuss silver, its history, mysteries, and allure. It is not a place for people who simply wish to quickly profit by our member's knowledge. Did you honestly have any interest past that? If you did, then you are most welcome to stay, learn, and contribute; if not, then it is perhaps best if you go.

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salome1

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So much for "The Silver Salon Forums are open to anyone with an interest in silver and a willingness to share" Hmmmm.

Of course I am interested in finding out about the object. It has been in my family since I was a child. Yes, in all honesty I will probably be selling it to fund my degree costs (I am not some internet pirate antiques dealer trying to rip off you're forum members). If I wanted an evaluation I could just go down to my local antiques market of which there are hundreds and get one for free! Consequently I wouldn't have to put up with being spoken to like a child.

All I want, which I am yet to get an answer to is to see if anyone knows who made the case and what the hallmark pertains to date wise. No doubt the unusual markings would interest other members here who clearly want to share their knowledge rather than discuss how 'shiny' it is. What more of a mystery could you want than an unidentifiable hallmark?

Anyway, I don't really have time to argue with a forum run by people with 'traffic warden' mentality. In all fairness I can see how the forum may entice quick quote's from those nasty online antiques dealers but really, whats the big scare? who is being duped here; us or you?

I am genuinely seeking info on the marks on the silver, regardless of whether I sell it or not, but I will look elsewhere. Thank you.

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you would have taken the time to read the various FAQs available, the past posts that have repeatedly asked the same question, and used the Forum search function, you could have found out what you needed to know without even posting the question:
  1. These are not hallmarks, which are only found on solid silver,
  2. The letters EPNS mean electro plated nickel silver, which is not silver at all, so
  3. You will not be funding your degree by selling it, whatever it is.

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salome1

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2005 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!! at least I know now.

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