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Mark_Jordan Posts: 3 Registered: Nov 2010	posted 11-19-2010 07:00 AM It is a brooch 28mm in diameter. It looks like Catherine II or Catherine I. It is enamel on silver, red guiloche, gilt around the edge and on headdress, three diamonds (tested by jeweler) in the headdress and one on the necklace. The pin is marked and so is the 'c' clasp but I can't make it out, it also looks like there is a very small letter stamp on the 'c' clasp which looks like a dot on the photo. I suspect the pin, 'c' clasp and even the mount on which the enameled silver plate is mounted may be gold. The rear of the plate is marked 932 which I suspect is a mistake where someone picked up a 2 instead of a 5. Any help would be welcome. Unfortunately the marks can look different depending on which way the light falls, because they are so small. It really needs to be identified by the type of work. IP: Logged
Postnikov Posts: 133 Registered: Nov 2009	posted 11-19-2010 07:30 AM Hi - Neither the makeup, style, quality nor the silver content is Russian. Regards Postnikov IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 11-19-2010 08:20 AM Mark_Jordan, Welcome to the Silver Salon Forums. Good job with the photos. Please read and respond as requested in the the yellow box above. ============================================== IP: Logged
Mark_Jordan Posts: 3 Registered: Nov 2010	posted 11-19-2010 09:00 AM I am asking the question because I am interested in its origin, pretty obvious really. If there are people on here that can help identify it, all well and good, but if the moderator has a petty minded Hitler attitude, then obviously I will ask elsewhere and not bother to come back. Thanks and goodbye. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 11-19-2010 09:13 AM I suspect that this was business reseach. But since Mark didn't introduce themselves nor did they provide the reasons for asking...... Their being some what impolite... it is best that they go elsewhere. I'll bet it won't be long before I get an email pointing out where this is for sale.... IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 11-19-2010 11:05 AM First post ask a question, second post referring to Hitler. I bet this was approx the 763 name registred by that person. No reason not to be polite - even if your agenda was seen before you had your way IP: Logged
Mark_Jordan Posts: 3 Registered: Nov 2010	posted 11-19-2010 04:17 PM Agenda? My love is actually watches, I have a Hanhart Type 41, an Omega 321 1967, a 1780 AguimacPparis 1/4 repeater, an Omega gold bezel 1983 special reduced, a multitude of Victorian silver and gold pocket watches and wrist watches. My agenda was to discover something about the brooch which I have no experience with. I don't think its friendly spouting board rules to a new member, who really cares? Surely you are here as a refernce source, if not, what bloody use are you? If someone wants to eBay their stuff, who are you to dictate or comment on what they do, what the hell do you jumped up pratts think you are? Don't worry, I have contacted some real experts, not old farts with nothing better to do that spout rules on a low quality board. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 11-19-2010 05:48 PM Mark, We all strive to be polite and to live within the Guidelines. This clearly is not what you are able to do. Its been a while since we last terminated someone's membership. We are terminating your SSF membership. You may appeal the decision via email. IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 11-19-2010 06:03 PM Dear Mark In my opinion you are a person that should have listened when you mother taught you basic human behavior. IP: Logged
Dale Posts: 2132 Registered: Nov 2002	posted 11-19-2010 08:34 PM Dear Mark, When I provide information to an on line seller, I expect to be paid for my expertise. I post here because I enjoy discussing silver when there is no commercial pressure being applied. Too bad you don't understand this. IP: Logged
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 Registered: May 99	posted 11-20-2010 01:45 PM All said and done, I think it is French. Why do you say silver? Looks like gold to me, and that's what the mark looks like. Just asking. IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 11-20-2010 06:31 PM How frustrating that the poster was so rude! I long to compare opinions about the brooch's date and place of origin, but I certainly don't want to help him. The style looks distinctively of a particular period to me. IP: Logged
ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 11-21-2010 10:26 AM "Jumped up pratts" must be an English term of endearment and it has a nice ring to it. It reminds me of another English expression that came to the U.S; that is "so and so went missing". We have, to my dismay, expanded this to "so and so went dead". Isn't the English language wonderful. IP: Logged
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 Registered: May 99	posted 11-21-2010 12:21 PM For our internal edification. The brooch is very much French in style, although such were made in the US and England at the same time--which would be only between 1890 and 1910. Jumped up = tricked out, fancy, pretentious pratt (cf: prat-fall)moron, idiot, clown IP: Logged
ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 11-21-2010 12:52 PM Thanks Ulysses for the definition. And all along I thought it was a term of endearment. Scott thank you for the rules you have set for this Forum. IP: Logged

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