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outwest

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iconnumber posted 12-02-2005 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sigh.
There was a Beckman Cincinnati Silversmiths book on that auction site this last week. I thought I was going to get it for a while there. Then this serious silver book collector (one of you? wink ) got whiff of it in the last 2 days and I didn't have a chance. I bid on it, and bid on it, and bid on it. Now there is another one they are going to do an open auction on! I think I'll stay out of that.

I guess I just wanted a bit of sympathy.
Oh well, I'll keep trying.

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 08-15-2006 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have my sympathy. I've bid the absolute most I could afford on some items only to be outbid by a sniper program in the last zillionth of a second, often by as little as one cent. Personally I don't think sniper programs should be allowed.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 08-15-2006 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally have nothing against snipers or sniping programs. Either the bidder will bid his high price now, or at the very end.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 08-15-2006 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Internet auctions with a definite ending time favor the buyer. If the opportunity to bid continued, I for one could get caught up in the auction excitement and go above the bid I had originally thought was my high bid. This may be good or bad for the buyer depending on his or her judgment during the excitement, but I think it usually works to the disadvantage of the seller since opportunities to bid are cut off.

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 09-04-2006 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought that at sometime/someplace there was an auction site that foiled snipers. If a bid were placed in the last 5 or 10 seconds then the auction automatically extended the time by 10 minutes or something like that. I have not found any auction site like that as yet. Maybe I remember it only by wishful thinking.

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Clive E Taylor

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iconnumber posted 09-04-2006 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clive E Taylor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The practise of sniping is a legitamate ploy. The problem for serious buyers is people who get carried away, or cannot make their minds up. . A bidder on Ebay for example will decide what he is prepared to pay, and, if he is wise, will not declare his hand until the last moment. This avoids the problem of the guy who puts his top bid, then decides to go one higher, then another, then another. The cry I hear often is "the sniper always wins". This is utter rubbish. If bidding has reached say 50 and you put a top bid of 300 , the bidding will then be at 55. A sniper coming in at a bid of 400 will get it for 305, but if he comes in at 250, you will get it for 255. Entirely OK, especially for the vendor. The really annoying bidder is the one who in the above circumstances bids 60 to top the 55, then bids 70 to top the resultant 65 , then 80 , then 90. Watching this just annoys the bidder of up to 300 - he knows that the opposer is not going to get it but it just raises the price he will need to pay. Hence the wise bidder snipes in at the last moment .It always seems to me that some bidders do not realise that Ebay for example do not take your maximum bid as the next bid, only the increment over the highest prior bid.
go.

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salmoned

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iconnumber posted 09-25-2006 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salmoned     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, if I'm overbid on an item (which happens more often than not, since I'm a cheapskate) I am not averse to incrementally upping my bid to test the limit of the higher bidder(s). It's good for the seller and it helps assuage my disappointment at losing the auction when the price is way over what I'd actually pay... Over 90% of my wins are 1 to 3 bid auctions!

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 09-26-2006 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been going to auctions for about 50 years. I enjoy the other bidders company and have enjoyed many an interesting and frequently informative discussions. Now, unlike real auctions, comes Ebay. No longer do I get to actually see what I am bidding on but now the auction format changes on me. I used to really like the bid, get outbid so I bid again. The big difference is I ALWAYS had the opportunity to place a last minute bid and sometimes I said o'what the heck spring for an extra 5 bucks. I would just like to have the opportunity available to me. Now with snipers that can no longer happen. I guess I am not a 'NOW GENERATION' sort of guy.

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