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Pinsabigail

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iconnumber posted 10-29-2003 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pinsabigail     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a small brite-cute twist spoon with hallmarks that I don't recognize. Do these ring a bell with anyone? Thank you.


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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 10-29-2003 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aren't these similar to marks on a spoon which you posted a while back? Mercury head, lion, anchor O E marks?
I can't be sure as the photo is no longer there! But, if so, they are Dutch.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 10-29-2003 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there,

Definitely Dutch, lion w/2 for .833 silver, head indicating tax was paid, date code for 1923, last mark is hard to make out - possibly the the town where assayed or a maker.

Cheryl ;o)

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 10-29-2003 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tardy shows this as being 833 fine and the date is probably 1847. Does anyone know if there is an additional way of telling city of manufacture from these marks?

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 10-29-2003 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dale,

If you check Tardy again, the 1847 "N" has serifs, and this spoon's mark is the 1923 sans serif "N". I have a similar piece from 1908.

Cheryl ;o)

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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 10-30-2003 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fired off a quick e-mail to the Dutch Assay Office or "Waarborg". Here is their kind reply:

The marks are Dutch.
The lion changed from 2 to II in 1953 and represent a silver fineness of 835
parts per thousand.
The letter "N" is from the year 1923, the letters differ in style only.
The Head, a minerva head, with the "M" in the hat represent the Assay Office
of Schoonhoven, there were 19 in total during the last 190 years.
The last mark is a makers mark that is too unclear to determine.

Kind regards,

Jan van Pelt
WaarborgHolland

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Pinsabigail

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iconnumber posted 10-30-2003 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pinsabigail     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all so much! You are the greatest!

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